@NorCal_Lynne @BakerRL75 see the excerpt that I posted. Where is the evidence that this works? I’ve seen so much irresponsible fire fighting behavior living in forest fire territory. They need to be held accountable. Though they do life-saving work, that does not excuse them from accountability. The same holds for other helping professions. If a doctor leaves a sponge in one of every 10 surgery patients, we don’t let him off just because he saves lives.