Sam Crawley

Looks like guppe groups will be closing down soon. Given how much academic Mastodon relies on them, it could be worth trying to move everyone over to chirp.social? @academicchatter

https://web.immers.space/2023/05/farewell-to-guppe/

(Edit: fixed link)

Farewell to Guppe - Immers Space

The story of the rise and fall of Guppe Groups, the decentralized social groups app for the ActivityPub Fediverse

Immers Space
May 10, 2023 at 9:31amWeb
Show threadSam CrawleyMay 10, 2023
@academicchatter I should have posted the correct link: https://web.immers.space/2023/05/farewell-to-guppe/
Farewell to Guppe - Immers Space

The story of the rise and fall of Guppe Groups, the decentralized social groups app for the ActivityPub Fediverse

Immers Space
Show threadArindam BasuMay 10, 2023
Chirp.social is very good, I have tried that.
chirp.social: Groups for the Fediverse

Create groups for Mastodon and other ActivityPub-enabled apps.

Show threadSam CrawleyMay 10, 2023
@arinbasu1 @academicchatter yeah being able to administer the group seems useful
Show threadArindam BasuMay 10, 2023
True. You have a finer grained control if you choose to manually approve (but more work as it happens)
Show threadPhilipp SteinkrügerMay 10, 2023
@SamCrawley I somehow can't find the announcement regarding guppe being discontinued on that page. Did you read that elsewhere?
Show threadSam CrawleyMay 10, 2023
@philippsteinkrueger just updated with the correct link
Show threadStories and FolkloreMay 10, 2023
@SamCrawley @academicchatter sad to see it go, I use them a lot.
Show threadtestingMay 10, 2023
@SamCrawley @[email protected]
no good idea at all, although i like certain features of chirp.social, so this why i say no to chirp.social:

(1) like a.gup.pe, chirp.social is a centralized service > once it is gone, you got a problem
(2) moderation tools for chirp.social do exist, but they are insufficient, so i absolutely disagree with @[email protected] in his positive assessment of chirp.social > moreover, chirp.social groups have been targeted by spambots in the course of the last weeks, and no, it is not possible to block spambots beforehand

better alternatives: friendica groups or /kbin groups (both decentralized + administrable) > if things go wrong on your instance, you can move the group
Show threadArindam BasuMay 10, 2023

Strong statements there!

I wrote based on my experience of using chirp.social, at least I found useful and easy to work with for a small group of friends, I have not faced spam over the last two months. Possible that if the service provider decided to discontinue the service can be a problem. Having tested the group features of kbin.social and friendica (venera.social), if I had to use one of them, I’d use #Friendica that I find more intuitive. The other alternative might be to use a common hashtag but #YMMV.

chirp.social: Groups for the Fediverse

Create groups for Mastodon and other ActivityPub-enabled apps.

Show threadtestingMay 10, 2023
@[email protected]
two things i like about chirp.social: (1) submitted posts are picked up fast, (2) setting up a chirp.social group is straightforward and easy > but chirp.social groups do not even federate properly - e.g. akkoma users cannot join chirp.social groups

/kbin is pretty small atm and until now, i have not used it > but i know that there are at least 4 /kbin instances

friendica groups: great in theory! the pickup behavior for submitted posts is somewhat elusive - mostly, it works, until it doesn't > once, i have seen a thread being boosted 14 days after the original submission by a friendica group which i set up > sometimes, submissions are not reposted by friendica groups > friendica groups is a wonky affair not to be trusted - off-and-on love, i'd say > meanwhile, moderating a friendica group is great, and you really can block harassers etc literally without any noise > as it is friendica, it federates with everything, and if you feel like the group should send out some email - just do it: it works!

decentralization is key for friendica: switching instances is perfectly possible > therefore, i still root for friendica groups