Another mass shooting in Texas. Children are among the victims. When are our lawmakers going to act? Only when we make them pay if they don’t.

@georgetakei I worry it isn't about logic, it's more like a religious question. Ban guns, allow abortions, hate god. Or something like that.

For many, US politics isn't really politics; there's no argument that makes people change sides. It seems closer to fanaticism on both sides.

I fully support anti-gun policy but worry it's about the people too. Norway and Canada have hunting + competition guns, yet not as much violence.

@gigantos @georgetakei ā€œFor many, US politics isn't really politics; there's no argument that makes people change sides. It seems closer to fanaticism on both sides.ā€

I can’t express just how infuriating I find all this ā€œboth sidesā€ shit.

No, there is not fanaticism on ā€œboth sidesā€. There is fanaticism on *one* side, and the reason the other side refusing to compromise is not because they are also fanatics, it’s because YOU’D HAVE TO BE A FUCKING MORON TO COMPROMISE WITH FANATICS!

Pretending that both sides are crazy is not only dishonest, it’s freaking idiotic. Whenever you have a group that is going bonkers and smearing their own shit over themselves, you will always have a group that is refusing to dive in to the feces with them… AND THOSE ARE THE SENSIBLE PEOPLE… they are not just another flavour of crazy. Their refusal to dunk their heads in scat is not because they are just as bonkers as the shit-smearers… it’s because dunking your head in scat is just a stupid thing to do. Every time someone ignorantly or dishonestly tries to paint ā€œboth sidesā€ as in the wrong, they are actually doing the work of the fanatics, and making it that much harder for the sensible side to gain ground.

I don’t even like the Democrats… not one bit… but they are absolutely NOT just another set of fanatics that are no different, fundamentally, from the Republicans. The GOP has sold its soul to become a dumpster fire of raving lunatics. The Democrats are… meh… they have their own problems… but they are absolutely not just a different flavour of dumpster fire of raving lunatics. There is no equivalency. Pretending there is is both out of touch with reality, and incredibly dumb.
@saria @georgetakei I tried to be inclusive. I do think fanatics exist on both sides, but think the number is astronomically larger on the right. Sorry if I offended you.
@gigantos @georgetakei I’m not personally offended; I’m not American, so I have no real skin in the game.

I’m just generally infuriated because this is something I keep seeing repeated over and over, and not only does it stink of defeatism, it undermines all efforts by sensible and progressive elements to actually get anything good accomplished. You can never hope to defeat the forces of stupidity if you keep saying the sensible side is stupid too, just in a different way.

Over and over I see people saying there are extremists on both sides, to which I always have to ask… WHO?! Who are the ā€œother sideā€ extremists? Who can even REMOTELY be held up in comparison to some of the howler monkeys in the Republican Party? Who can possibly be offered as a counter-example to some of the Republican ELECTED OFFICIALS, including major players like governors and senators, who push wacko conspiracies like Jewish space lasers, or that Hilary Clinton is a demon who drinks the blood of children while somehow simultaneously having sex with them in secret tunnels under a pizza parlour? Who among the Democrats has kidnapped a planeload of innocent people and human-trafficked them across the country, leaving them stranded and presumably to die—or at least be arrested—in the Massachusetts winter?

I mean, obviously, if you look far enough afield you can certainly find SOME wacko Democrat supporters. But you have to keep balance in mind. While you can find loony Dems on TikTok or Twitter or whatever… the crazies in the Republican Party are ELECTED OFFICIALS, SENATORS, AND GOVERNORS! Don’t waste peoples’ time comparing the likes of Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Ron DeSantis to some fringe kook on the Internet. Find me a COMPARABLE kook in the Democratic party. Find me a howler monkey Dem GOVERNOR. Find me a shit-smearing Dem SENATOR. Find me balance.

I’ve read right-wing media to find out exactly what kind of ā€œextremismā€ they think exists on the other side, and they just keep repeating the names Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, and a few others, sometimes including Bernie Sanders. THESE are the ā€œextremistsā€ on the Democrats side? Are you kidding me? Right-wingers claim these are ā€œextremistsā€ because they want ā€œsocialismā€, but 1) no, they really don’t, none of them are actually socialists, they are, at best, social democrats; and 2) socialism isn’t ā€œextremeā€, anyway, except from the view of the extreme right. I see no right-wing media even TRYING to claim that there are Democrats who are seriously calling for anything even remotely equivalent to a genocide of trans people (which, of course, some GOP representatives have actually done, and is even being implied by some party platforms).

Without that balance, any pretense that there is fanaticism on both sides is dishonest. And dishonesty only helps the party of lies… which, spoiler alert, is the GOP.

And to be clear, I say all this despite DETESTING the Democratic Party. Sorry to George Takei, but I find his obsequious dedication to the Democratic Party to be embarrassing. The Dems are TERRIBLE. They are only slightly more appealing than used toilet paper on the best of days, and only warrant any consideration at all because their opposition is actual, literal shit. I don’t even expect anything good from them; at best I expect ā€œnot the apocalypse, at least not right awayā€. They’re barely better than useless: the recurring pattern is that the Republicans come to power and create problems, then the Democrats come to power and… do nothing… then the Republicans come to power and the downward spiral into the sewer for the USA continues. I don’t hold any hope that the Democrats will FIX anything, but they will at least STALL the decline, hopefully long enough for a new generation to bring positive change.

The tl;dr here is this:

• There is simply no comparison between the extremism in the Republican Party, and the ā€œextremismā€ in the Democratic Party.
• Saying that there is extremism on both sides without HUGE amounts of context and hand-waving is straight-up dishonest, because it implies some kind of parity.
• Every time you give even the SLIGHTEST amount of credence to the idea that the Democrat extremists are even remotely comparable to the Republican extremists, you ALWAYS help the Republicans.
• You may THINK you’re being even-handed, thoughtful, and inclusive by admitting that there are problems on your side, too… but really all you’re doing is helping the crazies, because THEY have no interest in being balanced or reasonable.

So, anyone out there reading this, unless you WANT to help the Republican lunatic howler monkeys, STOP WITH THIS ā€œBOTH SIDESā€ BULLSHIT. It is lazy thinking. It is factually untrue. And it is unhelpful to the discourse.
@saria @georgetakei I started without the both sides part, and added it in my second pass to try not to offend the more reasonable people on the right. Part of the problem seems to be that a large number of them are so afraid of the left, they won't even join a conversation. They may be partially sensible, but still have a 100% conviction of one single cause. It could be abortion or gun-violence, or some other thing. But they vote against anyone opposing it.
@saria @georgetakei also, from my perspective, the democrats are pretty far right. They are as you said; the ones that won't bring the apocalypse, but that doesn't make them great.