Derek Powazek đCriticizing mastodon continues to be the least fun thing to do on mastodon.
Yâall realize that accepting criticism and mining it for good ideas is just what you have to do when you run community projects, right? And that lack of criticism means youâre failing, because people donât criticize things theyâve given up on, right?
The core problem with all social software is that it winds up being run by people who love software more than people.
Andy Waschick@fraying Thats a broad brush to be painting with, homie. Canât those of us who love software ALSO love people? I donât care to be characterized as some affectless zomboid zero-empathy techno-hermit. I make machines do machine things so people who I care about are free to do people things.
@randywaterhouse what? A one sentence post lacks nuance? Almost like I was making one simple point that, were it not to apply to you, personally, might still be true in general? Wild!
@fraying If weâre going to pick nits on semantics⌠You did make an unequivocal and definitive statement, which included the term âall social softwareâ - If there was a disclaimer to be made, you should have made it instead of assuming your audience thought exactly as you do. Use your words!
eevee đŚ@randywaterhouse @fraying Really getting that "loves people" vibe here yeah
@eevee @fraying I make the lives of my users better by using technology to reduce drudgery and repetition. This requires precision in word and deed. If I didnât care (about my people) so much, I wouldnât make a point of arguing the semantics of blanket statements that influence others to dismiss what I choose to spend my career doing.
William PietriExcellent work convincing this very people-oriented developer that you're entire in the wrong here.
Puppy PiThere's so much insanity here I don't have the mental energy to engage in this discussion beyond this post. But suffice it to say, you felt called out by something not directed at you at all (esp. if you're an automation not social networking engineer!!), took issue with it, thinking it called you a "affectless zomboid zero-empathy techno-hermit"
And now, because of victim complexness, toxic reply guy behavior in saying intelligence-insulting things to OP like "Use your words!" and "This requires precision in word and deed", pretending to not understand sentences like "The sky is blue" or "Engineers are bad at empathy" or "Men are jerks" or "Space is cold", and talking like you're a black kid from the hood ("homie") in one post and about your client *companies* having huge sums of money in another post, and etc. ..,
like half a dozen people and counting who didn't know you existed before now think you're a..lemme find the words.. oh right, an "affectless zomboid zero-empathy techno-hermit"
(Which is harsher language than I would have used, but you're the one who said it.)
..Smooth move xD
[MESSAGE ME TO FOLLOW] green@randywaterhouse @codepuppy @eevee @fraying @williampietri if by "new friends" you mean "people who have watched you fit your entire ass into your own mouth and have come to the conclusion that you are, in fact, an affectless zomboid zero-empathy techno-hermit and plonked you into their block/mute folder," you are absolutely correct!
@codepuppy @eevee @fraying @williampietri Also I appreciate the special effort you have made to make me feel like such an out of touch jerk. Iâll be sure to integrate this into my ongoing loop of negative self-talk. Weâre really living the dream here in this new social-media utopia.
You are really insistent on not taking feedback and not learning a lesson. Since you obviously won't hear it from us, would you please just show these posts to a trusted friend and ask them how you're coming across and if you're having the effect you want?
@williampietri @codepuppy Look whoâs being condescending now.
For the record, you came out of nowhere to reply to someone's post and be paternalistic and insult the OP's intelligence. Don't do that and you won't get pushback that you find unpleasant.
(And fwiw xD, the actual original post is *literally* about how we *don't* consider this a new social media utopia and we have problems with how it's designed and how the people who design it have a hard time accepting criticism dslkfjflkj)
@eevee @fraying @williampietri
Okay I'm bowing out now; I got things to do with my life and energies, and this is enough for me on what I put the Content Warning as x'D