kravietz 🦇Apr 25, 2023

@oliphant

So what? You’re still creating an avenue for skinheads to harass people on your server. Because they can still get in.

If they do, I’d happily block and defederate them. But they don’t.

Therefore, any of those servers can post there.

But did they ever actually post there? The answer is: no.

Maybe you’ve been lucky and they ignore you because you’re Polish?

Maybe. Go bully instances in India or Ukraine preaching them about the need to block your English-language US-based racist instances, see their reaction. It’s not because we support racism, but because these instances are irrelevant to us, we don’t see them, we don’t care about them. If they do come, we’ll respond.

numerous cases of abusive servers going out of their way to harass people with hateful, abusive language.

Excellent, if Fediblock was exclusively about these servers I’d happy apply it on my instance. But it’s not.

Because no one can “enforce” anything here.

They smear people as “fascists”, call themselves “Fediverse Council” and bully others with the “if you don’t ban them, we’ll ban you” stick, so how exactly it’s different from enforcement?

In the past, some admins have witnessed behavior from that instance they find troubling

Oh, I’m very much aware of what happened in the past, as I was following it from the very beginning. The shitstorm around 101010 reaches half year back and started with a few Polish activists/admins who:

  • accused 101010 (the largest Polish instance) of being “far-right friendly” based on two posts by a far-right Polish politician who posted some filth… and was promptly kicked out (I was one of the people who reacted to his posts)
  • sold this story to their English-speaking friends, who understood no word in Polish, on the “trust me bro, they’re fascist” basis and expecting a “solidarity ban”
  • sent unsolicited spam messages to a number of unrelated 101010 users with “your instance is going to be blocked globally haha” FUD
  • promoted their own instances as a “safe” alternative
  • continue running around and smearing 101010 as “fascist” in the absence of any evidence to the effect

    • As you can see, there’s much more context behind what you were sold as “they were concerned and just wanted to warn others”. I have all that documented, happy to share if you’re interested.

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    @kravietz @oliphant @fediblock

    It is high time that #fediblock list Admins, as well as the Fediverse Council redress the damage done to the 101010 community and removes the instance from blocklists. It was an illinformed decision and must be corrected.

    One can’t be kept in purgatory for eternity. This situation has become kafkesque. The Fediverse should be a friendly place for decent communities, and such is the 101010 as well.

    Time to end the injustice!

    @rcz @xaphanpl

    #refederation

    Apr 26, 2023 at 7:41amWeb