"And so I think that there’s just a profound uncertainty to life right now, and that this is one of them. And it has some pieces of uncertainties that we’re familiar with. However, it’s also the case that automated technologies are quite literally made by us. And while they can have generative velocity, it’s not the case that they necessarily have to be unleashed and unknown to us. That’s a choice."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/11/podcasts/ezra-klein-podcast-transcript-alondra-nelson.html