Post re-affirms that it will be adding ActivityPub integration, making it cross compatible with Mastodon.

However, that won’t be happening this year.

And since Post is a start-up funded by Andreesen Horowitz (a16z), I’m skeptical about their intentions.

Remember, a16z are the same folks that’s funded Big Social as well as crypto firms like Coinbase. They’re exploitative to the core.

I suspect Post is just another walled garden.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/03/post-a-twitter-alternative-that-pays-publishers-via-microtransactions-launches-public-beta/

@fediversenews

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That said, I don’t mind Post adding ActivityPub integration.

Just acknowledging Mastodon means that their walled garden is compromised. And actually adding compatibility with the Fediverse means they need us to survive.

Make no bones about it.

As the Fediverse grows, it will be harder and harder for social media startups to build their network effect from scratch. Why do it when ~12 million people already use an ActivityPub compatible app?

This is the audience that Post is missing out on.

Post is already implying that their monthly active users (MAUs) are at near parity with Mastodon’s.

However:

1. Due to decentralization, any report of Mastodon’s MAUs is speculative whereas due to centralization, Post’s are not

2. Whatever the stats on MAUs, there’s more conversation happening on the Fediverse than on Post

Post’s MAUs are not comparable to Mastodon’s MAUs.

So from a functional perspective, what does it matter how many people have a Post account?

Most people on Post don’t say anything. Mass media conglomerates might like this about Post—since they generally don’t like it when the “riff raff” have opinions—but I don’t like so-called social media focused on consumption.

Personally, I write to converse—not to feed “content” to a hypothetical lurker.

Let’s call a spade a spade. If Post could exist without the Fediverse, their VC backers would be over the moon.

It would mean that Post could subsist as a walled garden.

But just in the last week, Mastodon added 300,000 new accounts. Momentum for ActivityPub isn’t slowing down, it’s picking up.

At what point does the Fediverse become impossible to ignore?

It amuses me how the likes of Post acknowledge that decentralization is the future of social media but they’re not going to adopt it yet because they don’t know which protocol will “win”.

It doesn’t matter which protocol wins. It makes no difference if it’s ActivityPub or AT Protocol (Bluesky) or IMAP/SMTP.

What matters is that a social media message gets treated as a message.

Hence, interoperability.

ActivityPub isn’t perfect but it offers interoperability right now.

If a message gets treated as a message—specifically across disparate servers, clients, and apps—that means decentralization of social media is a success.

If Post isn’t letting a message be a message on their platform, promises of Mastodon compatibility should be taken with a grain of salt. Currently, they are at odds with decentralization.

I refuse to use their service.

@atomicpoet I opened my Mastodon account at the end of October and opened a Post account shortly thereafter. I quit Twitter soon after that. I haven't looked at or posted anything on Post since at least December and tried to close my account, but apparently they aren't letting people close accounts, yet. I couldn't find any way to close my account. 😑
@Burnt_Veggies If you are from Europe you could request the deletion of your data according to GDPR. Which is equivalent to closing your account.
@Datendealerin I am not in Europe. Sometimes I feel that is unfortunate. 😭 I am in the US.

@Burnt_Veggies You can request your Post account be permanently deleted. Here’s the info on how to do so:

https://intercom.help/post-news/en/articles/6768044-how-do-i-deactivate-or-delete-my-account

How do I deactivate or delete my account? | Post Help Center

@StanWonn Thanks so much! I will look at this later. I've bookmarked it. I have to go vote right now. 🙂
@atomicpoet
It also tells you that they don't have enough confidence in their own product that they think they can help a protocol win by adopting it...

@atomicpoet :lol: at the idea of a single winning protocol in federated social.

We can't even get one of POP or IMAP to die and it's been 50 years.

@pre @atomicpoet POP will outlive us all. Only fortran will outlive POP.
@llewelly @pre @atomicpoet “I don’t know what programming language scientists and engineers will use in the 22nd century, but I know it will be called FORTRAN.”

@michaelgemar @llewelly @pre @atomicpoet

We just don't know what it will stand for:

Maybe "For Transformers": Optimus Prime and their ilk have to run *something*.

<mumble: and it's probably not Python>

@JamesGarry @llewelly @pre @atomicpoet [content warning: dad joke] What programming language do all Transformers avoid? Rust.
@atomicpoet are you not aware of diaspora?
I'm not seeing it listed.
@dhfir There’s many protocols I didn’t list and I don’t intend to list all of them. Finger is worth mentioning too.
@atomicpoet
Why do we wanna have a single protocol "win" anyway? One app can't possibly do everything well and neither can one protocol
@atomicpoet
Is there really any meaningful competition between ActivityPub and other decentralisation protocols? How can "waiting for a winner to emerge" possibly continue to be a tenable argument even under its own terms?