Augie RayApr 2, 2023

Three people hospitalized eating raw cookie dough, and "the CDC recommends following recipe or package instructions to fully cook cookies, cakes and other foods made with raw flour, and using warm water and soap to wash hands, utensils, countertops and anything else that comes into contact with raw four."

2,000 people die a week from #COVID19 and the CDC won't recommend wearing a mask or altering behaviors.

Make it make sense.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/31/health/salmonella-outbreak-flour/index.html

Show threadKyRadApr 2, 2023
@augieray Can't afford to lose profits by upgrading air flow systems and having all of the country taking the vaccine. Just hide the numbers and pretend Covid is gone.
Show threadAlexey MerzApr 2, 2023

@KyRad1669 @augieray CDC diea recommend wearing masks. Why would you lie about that?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/types-of-masks.html

Masks and Respirators

Wear a mask with the best fit, protection, and comfort for you.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Show threadAugie RayApr 2, 2023

@merz @KyRad1669 That info you shared is not current. Here is the current masking guidance from the CDC. The CDC only says to wear a high-quality mask or respirator where community levels are high (0.78% of the US). It says to wear a mask in medium areas (8.7%) “if you are at high risk of getting very sick.” You “may choose to wear a mask at any time” everywhere else.

Accuse me of lying again, and I'll block you.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/covid-by-county.html

COVID by County

COVID-19 Community Levels help you decide your prevention steps.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Show threadsleepy.Apr 2, 2023
@augieray @merz @KyRad1669 block away.
Show threadAugie RayApr 2, 2023
@iamverysleepy @merz @KyRad1669 Not sure the point you think you're making. If you think the CDC lightly recommending less than 1% of the US mask contradicts my other statement statement,i think you're wrong. Half the US is at high or substantial transmission. COVID is rising in wastewater. Around 2,000 Americans die from COVID weekly. Suggesting 0.78% of the US mask is NOT reasonable or serious mask guidance.
Show threadAlexey MerzApr 2, 2023

@augieray @iamverysleepy @KyRad1669 At this point morbidity and mortality are comparable to a relatively bad seasonal flu year. And a large majority of that morbidity and mortality are due to lack of vaccination or under-vaccination. But highly effective COVID-19 vaccines are in fact available.

Sure, mask in public indoor spaces, on transit, etc. I do. But I don't pretend that masking is remotely as important as vaccination and the bivalent boost.

Because it's not.

Show threadSasha FoxApr 3, 2023
@merz @augieray @iamverysleepy @KyRad1669 That's not remotely true. This year was a bad flu year, do you want to see how it compared to covid deaths?
Show threadAlexey MerzApr 3, 2023

@sashafox @augieray @iamverysleepy @KyRad1669

What I wrote: "At this point morbidity and mortality are comparable to a relatively bad seasonal flu year."

What part of "at this point" are you finding it difficult to parse?

Please let me know. I'd be delighted to help you understand this.

PS, take a look at the CURRENT situation (as in, right now — that means the farthest right part of the graph, i.e., "At this point") and how far the red line is from the double black line. It's not far.

Show threadSasha FoxApr 3, 2023
@merz @augieray @iamverysleepy @KyRad1669 Do you see how the deaths from covid are many times higher than the deaths from the flu? In 2023?
Show threadAlexey MerzApr 3, 2023

@sashafox @augieray @iamverysleepy @KyRad1669

No, I don't. Because they aren't. Most influenza deaths are not coded as such. But they are coded as pneumonia deaths. Hence the red line.

Compare the seasonal baseline for 2019 to conditions NOW. I.e., AT THIS POINT, as I wrote.

And if you're going to post a graph, at least make /some/ effort to figure out what it's showing.

Show threadAlexey Merz

@sashafox @augieray @iamverysleepy @KyRad1669

Very seriously: I hope that this graph provides you with at least some solace. Things were much, much, much worse in the very recent past than they are now.

Apr 3, 2023 at 4:26amWeb
Show threadSasha FoxApr 3, 2023
@merz @augieray @iamverysleepy @KyRad1669 So now you've moved the goalposts from "it's the same as the flu", which is objectively false, to "It's not as bad as it was in previous years".