Vivien (dentelle & numérique)What do you think of gnustep?
Johannes Brakensiek@gugurumbe It was the best idea for a free (libre) desktop environment. But it was ahead of his time (and maybe not done that well at its time), which is why people wrote #GNOME and that took over and #GNUstep got stuck. #GUI never reached a mature state, #Foundation is quite nice, but installs desktop stuff with its setup. The only stable runtime is #GNU, #libobjc2 has not got much support by the very little community.
Sleepy JoshI loved it in the late 90s.
Ade Malsasa Akbar@gugurumbe @lazarus I think helloSystem by @probono is the best living example of GNUstep in real life use. See https://hellosystem.github.io.
@ademalsasa @gugurumbe I think there was a GNUstep release for evaluating it, but @probono dropped it in favour of Qt tech. So helloSystem is not about *step or #ObjC now.
If you want to get closer to that look at #Darling (https://www.darlinghq.org) or #ravynOS (https://airyx.org) or #Nextspace (https://trunkmaster.github.io).
@lazarus this information is very valuable to me! Thanks for pointing out Ravyn and Nextspace, they are both new to me tonight. I set my eyes to Darling system since a while ago, but nice to look at it once again.
probono@lazarus @ademalsasa @gugurumbe once ravynOS has the ObjC stuff working smoothly, I'd be happy to merge it back into #helloSystem. It's just not something I am investing time into myself right now
@probono very interesting that Probono is interested to ravynnOS. I'd love to test it too.
@ademalsasa @probono @gugurumbe Well, #ravynOS is an idea. I doubt there is any chance to create a working OS with such little manpower. Non the less #macOS and #GNUstep are completely #ObjC based. The main frameworks are not a feature that could be merged in on a later point. Many of the features of #MacOSX and #iOS were possible only due to the dynamic nature of #ObjC (and #Swift nowadays).