I've seen a lot of crap being put about on the idea of parents' rights. I want to reject this idea outright.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PARENTS' RIGHTS.

Parents do not have "rights" over their children. The children have rights; the parents have responsibilities to see that those rights are upheld.

In order for the parents to have rights, then necessarily the child does not have them. The only situation in which we have allowed one human to usurp another's rights was slavery; and I would argue children are not property.

If they're not property, then they're people, and if they're people, then they have rights. If they have rights, parents can't.

This is such a crucial distinction. The parents don't have a right to have their child educated; the child has a right to a good education. The parents don't have the right to participate in sport; the child does. And so on.

Once you reframe the idea like this, that children are human beings with their own rights, you see what a disingenous line of attack this is from the right wing.

Parents have an awesome responsibility: the care and management of the human rights of beings not able to assert them for themselves. But it must be clear that the rights belong to the children, and that they are being safeguarded, not owned, by the parents.

This simple conceptual shift shows that children should have full bodily autonomy, including their right to assert consent to being touched by anyone (think touch sensitivity), and including the right to present as the gender they want. The right to religion, or freedom from it if they want. The rights are theirs, and the parents should have no power to abrogate those rights without due care and consideration.

Yes, by the way, I am a parent, as well as a grandparent. I stand by this. My kids are not my property, never were.

@oldladyplays Thanks, Cait! I've been thinking a lot lately along those lines and you articulated it very well. 

@oldladyplays The only thing I would add is that it's legally necessary to give parents certain default legal authority so that they can carry out their role in protecting and caring for their kids. They need the ability, for instance, to make medical decisions on behalf of their kid. However, the moment the parents become the abusers and are regularly violating the rights of the child, that legal authority can and should pass to someone else.

This is important to raise IMO, because that's where the GOP and their cronies seem to be intentionally confused. Yes, the parents do need the ability to override social defaults so they can navigate systems on behalf of the child when social defaults would hurt them. Pulling the kid out of a school where they're getting bullied, for instance. However, these are not rights of the parent over their child's education, they are a legal ability given to the parent so they can protect the child's right to a harassment-free education.

@faithisleaping @oldladyplays Honestly you could probably do this by simply letting the kid override the parent.

If the kid can't make decisions (e.g. is a 2-year-old, is incapacitated), then the parent can speak for them, but if the kid can speak for themself, then they can speak for themself.

@faithisleaping @oldladyplays ...though good luck navigating things like vaccines and explaining that even though the shot hurts like hell, it's still important...
@Ylfingr @faithisleaping @oldladyplays Just give kids /normal/ shots instead of those dang muscle shots that hurt like the dickens. Flu/covid vaccines aren't bad at all!