The fact that Americans are risking their lives traveling to a region of Mexico controlled by cartels in order to obtain healthcare says a lot more about the USA than it does about Mexico.

[edit: The fact that many people carry around value hierarchies and judgment regarding other people's medical procedures is ALSO very interesting]

@chadloder I agree with your overall statement but in this case I think the folks who were traveling were unaware of the danger and were seeking elective cosmetic surgery. This doesn't mean that thousands of US citizens don't routinely travel to Mexico for dental and necessary surgical procedures that would bankrupt them in the US: they do. It's just that this case was more of a tragic circumstance of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
@isotope239 @chadloder Yes, absolutely, in this case "elective cosmetic surgery." Why...
@jab01701mid @isotope239 Elective cosmetic surgery is healthcare.
@chadloder @jab01701mid @isotope239 it’s healthcare in that it is done in a hospital, by a doctor. It’s elective in that you don’t need a facelift and tummy tuck to live a happy, productive life.
@bouncing @chadloder @jab01701mid @isotope239 you might. My career depended on me having a full head of hair. If I was going bald, my happiness may have very well counted on me having “elective cosmetic” surgery. There’s a million more surgeries than just the “body touch up” one’s you’re mentioning. I dated a woman who lost almost 200 lbs. She would’ve been one giant blob of skin if she didn’t have plastic surgery. People typically suffer for years w/self esteem being crushed before surgery
@twitterreject @chadloder @jab01701mid @isotope239 you’re reaching here. Whatever the case, find me a country where hair plugs are covered by universal healthcare.
@bouncing @chadloder @jab01701mid @isotope239 not all plastic surgery cases are as simple as you make them to be where they are based on pure vanity. I don’t know why that bs judgmental narrative is promoted but while it’s the more common reason on a handful of procedures, nearly every procedure has people who’s overall health and well-being depend on it. Even the “vanity” ones tend to have people who have obsessed over it for years and have severe insecurities It’s not an impulse decision
@twitterreject @bouncing @chadloder @jab01701mid I never intended to trivialize the motives of the victims. However her surgery was termed, the point I was originally trying to make was that it's probable that they were unaware of the risk they took in going to Matamoros. It's likely that the surgery was arranged through one of dozens of medical tourism websites which tend to make the event look like a spa holiday and which don't dwell on the potential risk of violence in certain locations.
@isotope239 @bouncing @chadloder @jab01701mid that comment was directed at the other guy who commented about hair plugs. Sorry for the confusion
@twitterreject @bouncing @chadloder @jab01701mid Any way you look at it, the situation was tragic, I feel so sorry for the victims. From various commentary made by their families, I gather that the trip was intended to be almost a kind of holiday. They just ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time.