Chad LoderMar 9, 2023

The fact that Americans are risking their lives traveling to a region of Mexico controlled by cartels in order to obtain healthcare says a lot more about the USA than it does about Mexico.

[edit: The fact that many people carry around value hierarchies and judgment regarding other people's medical procedures is ALSO very interesting]

Show threadisotope239 🥸💻📚 🇺🇦Mar 9, 2023
@chadloder I agree with your overall statement but in this case I think the folks who were traveling were unaware of the danger and were seeking elective cosmetic surgery. This doesn't mean that thousands of US citizens don't routinely travel to Mexico for dental and necessary surgical procedures that would bankrupt them in the US: they do. It's just that this case was more of a tragic circumstance of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Show threadJohn BreenMar 9, 2023
@isotope239 @chadloder Yes, absolutely, in this case "elective cosmetic surgery." Why...
Show threadChad LoderMar 10, 2023
@jab01701mid @isotope239 Elective cosmetic surgery is healthcare.
Show threadJohn BreenMar 10, 2023
@chadloder @isotope239 No, it's not. You are taking a risk for a "cosmetic" reason, by definition. Your life is not at stake, until you decide surgery is worth the risks for "cosmetic" reasons. Different things.
Show threadisotope239 🥸💻📚 🇺🇦Mar 10, 2023
@jab01701mid @chadloder I understand the distinction, but with these folks, I suspect they simply didn't understand how much of a risk they were taking. Perhaps they should have done some research over at the State Dept.'s website before going, but not everyone is that diligent.
Show threadCaylaMar 10, 2023
@isotope239 @jab01701mid @chadloder
Hi I've been to the cit in question, I used to live close enough to it to take regular day trips, it isn't that dangerous especially for US citizens. Thanks
Show threadGurtbeef RobeMar 12, 2023
@Kaminara @isotope239 @jab01701mid @chadloder they just put a travel warning on that place recently. Your past trips are irrelevant
Show threadCaylaMar 12, 2023
@twitterreject @isotope239 @jab01701mid @chadloder
Well I guess my friends going over this weekend doesn't count?
Show threadGurtbeef Robe
@Kaminara @isotope239 @jab01701mid @chadloder guess not. I’m just going by what the state dept said. You do you
Mar 12, 2023 at 7:15pmWeb
Show threadCaylaMar 12, 2023
@twitterreject @isotope239 @jab01701mid @chadloder
Understandable, I just want to point out those aren't always accurate, but I do admit if you aren't familiar it may be a good starting point
Show threadGurtbeef RobeMar 12, 2023
@Kaminara @isotope239 @jab01701mid @chadloder I was in El Paso the year things exploded in Juarez and now I’m in San Diego. I always check with the locals if I’m there. I check with state dept to see what I could be getting into, but the locals are always my final check. Never could make it to Juarez bc they all said to go with someone and nobody would escort me bc of threat level. That was 2008 I think, I still won’t go to TJ w/out a local for help