Mark Holtom (aka Kingbeard)Think about this when you hear Suella Braverman saying to Lineker that the difference between her comments and those of the Nazis was that hers are lawful.
Mordko@MarkHoltom the difference is that Jews didn’t try to get into Nazi Germany or occupied Europe but to get out. See?
The similarities are far more than the differences.
Differences:
Jews vs Muslims
Get out vs Get in.
Similarities:
- othering minorities, religions, races, etc.
- making them responsible for local problems.
- using them as a scapegoat to hide from own govt's problems (economy, health, education, law, ...).
- blaming migrants as cause for the above (they are taking your job/house/services).
- comparing to vermin / swarm, etc.
There's lots more.
@MarkHoltom Mass murder is a difference. Fundamental one. You just like sticking “Hitler” into every sentence to belittle the Holocaust.
@MarkHoltom there is no plan to exterminate anyone. If thats what you are saying then you are lying.
If you really want to draw parallels, UK and Canada severely limited numbers of Jewish refugees in late 1930s. Who were running from Nazi Germany rather than 21st century France.
The discussion is specifically about the 1930s. It was before the holocaust, and the message is that if you ignore the lessons from this time, they can happen again, which is what we see with the rise of far right.
If we don't learn from this, then there could be another holocaust, and we will have been party to it instead of stopping it.
I don't belittle the holocaust. I am trying to make sure that it doesn't happen again.
@MarkHoltom Main Kampf was written in 1920s. Extermination was part of the plan. Jews who had been German citizens lost citizenship by virtue of wrong blood in 1935. There is nothing remotely comparable. Its baloney. And vile.
We have to agree to disagree.
@MarkHoltom Mein Kampf: “the sacred mission of the German people…to assemble and preserve the most valuable racial elements…and raise them to the dominant position.” “All who are not of a good race are chaff.” Hitler ascribed international significance to the elimination of Jews, which “must necessarily be a bloody process”. Thats from 1920s. You are either very ignorant or deliberately lying.
@MarkHoltom UK in 1930s turned away Jewish refugees. That would be a plausible parallel but still a stretch because France is safe.