Chad LoderMar 9, 2023

The fact that Americans are risking their lives traveling to a region of Mexico controlled by cartels in order to obtain healthcare says a lot more about the USA than it does about Mexico.

[edit: The fact that many people carry around value hierarchies and judgment regarding other people's medical procedures is ALSO very interesting]

Show threadisotope239 🥸💻📚 🇺🇦Mar 9, 2023
@chadloder I agree with your overall statement but in this case I think the folks who were traveling were unaware of the danger and were seeking elective cosmetic surgery. This doesn't mean that thousands of US citizens don't routinely travel to Mexico for dental and necessary surgical procedures that would bankrupt them in the US: they do. It's just that this case was more of a tragic circumstance of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Show threadJohn BreenMar 9, 2023
@isotope239 @chadloder Yes, absolutely, in this case "elective cosmetic surgery." Why...
Show threadChad LoderMar 10, 2023
@jab01701mid @isotope239 Elective cosmetic surgery is healthcare.
Show threadJohn BreenMar 10, 2023
@chadloder @isotope239 No, it's not. You are taking a risk for a "cosmetic" reason, by definition. Your life is not at stake, until you decide surgery is worth the risks for "cosmetic" reasons. Different things.
Show threadChad LoderMar 10, 2023
@jab01701mid @isotope239 For many people, "cosmetic" surgery is literally life-saving. Stop this nonsense.
Show threadJohn BreenMar 10, 2023
@chadloder @isotope239 Please describe what you mean - if it's "life-saving", it's not "cosmetic".
Show threadGraydon

@jab01701mid @chadloder @isotope239 "Cosmetic" covers reconstructive surgeries. You aren't about to die, so it's not essential in medical taxonomies.

Putting your face back after the car accident, bear attack, etc. allows you to interact socially again and be a human, well, sure, but that has nothing to do with your metabolic capacity for life, so it's not officially essential.

Taxonomies always lie. Which lies is an important question.

People should have the bodies they want to have.

Mar 10, 2023 at 3:42pmWeb