Chad LoderMar 9, 2023

The fact that Americans are risking their lives traveling to a region of Mexico controlled by cartels in order to obtain healthcare says a lot more about the USA than it does about Mexico.

[edit: The fact that many people carry around value hierarchies and judgment regarding other people's medical procedures is ALSO very interesting]

Show threadisotope239 🥸💻📚 🇺🇦Mar 9, 2023
@chadloder I agree with your overall statement but in this case I think the folks who were traveling were unaware of the danger and were seeking elective cosmetic surgery. This doesn't mean that thousands of US citizens don't routinely travel to Mexico for dental and necessary surgical procedures that would bankrupt them in the US: they do. It's just that this case was more of a tragic circumstance of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Show threadJohn BreenMar 9, 2023
@isotope239 @chadloder Yes, absolutely, in this case "elective cosmetic surgery." Why...
Show threadChad LoderMar 10, 2023
@jab01701mid @isotope239 Elective cosmetic surgery is healthcare.
Show threadJohn BreenMar 10, 2023
@chadloder @isotope239 No, it's not. You are taking a risk for a "cosmetic" reason, by definition. Your life is not at stake, until you decide surgery is worth the risks for "cosmetic" reasons. Different things.
Show threadChad LoderMar 10, 2023
@jab01701mid @isotope239 For many people, "cosmetic" surgery is literally life-saving. Stop this nonsense.
Show threadJohn BreenMar 10, 2023
@chadloder @isotope239 Please describe what you mean - if it's "life-saving", it's not "cosmetic".
Show threadMaggie MacIntyreMar 10, 2023

@jab01701mid @chadloder @isotope239 I lived for 8 years with one breast after cancer treatment.

It cratered my self esteem, affected my confidence meeting people, job hunting. It was uncomfortable. There are no one-breast bras. There is no clothing for that shape. A million little cuts chipped away at my self-esteem every day for 8 years.

Last year I finally had an "elective" "cosmetic" mastectomy. Would that breast ever have killed me? No. Did that surgery save my life? Abso-fucking-lutely.

Show threadOwl the Gnus...
@inkstainedmags @jab01701mid @chadloder @isotope239
Congratulations!
Someone in my family did exactly the same thing. She felt free again and was happy she did it.
Mar 10, 2023 at 3:28pmWeb