Chad LoderMar 9, 2023

The fact that Americans are risking their lives traveling to a region of Mexico controlled by cartels in order to obtain healthcare says a lot more about the USA than it does about Mexico.

[edit: The fact that many people carry around value hierarchies and judgment regarding other people's medical procedures is ALSO very interesting]

Show threadisotope239 🥸💻📚 🇺🇦Mar 9, 2023
@chadloder I agree with your overall statement but in this case I think the folks who were traveling were unaware of the danger and were seeking elective cosmetic surgery. This doesn't mean that thousands of US citizens don't routinely travel to Mexico for dental and necessary surgical procedures that would bankrupt them in the US: they do. It's just that this case was more of a tragic circumstance of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Show threadJohn BreenMar 9, 2023
@isotope239 @chadloder Yes, absolutely, in this case "elective cosmetic surgery." Why...
Show threadChad LoderMar 10, 2023
@jab01701mid @isotope239 Elective cosmetic surgery is healthcare.
Show threadJohn BreenMar 10, 2023
@chadloder @isotope239 No, it's not. You are taking a risk for a "cosmetic" reason, by definition. Your life is not at stake, until you decide surgery is worth the risks for "cosmetic" reasons. Different things.
Show threadChad LoderMar 10, 2023
@jab01701mid @isotope239 For many people, "cosmetic" surgery is literally life-saving. Stop this nonsense.
Show threadAngry CentristMar 10, 2023
@chadloder @jab01701mid @isotope239 Whose life has been saved by a tummy-tuck? (that's the specific procedure in context)
Show threadLukako
@dkbgeek @chadloder @jab01701mid @isotope239 Many lives have been saved by surgeries that address issues such as body dsymorphia or gender affirmation. Talk to trans people for anecdotal proof. My surgery has improved my self-image and confidence drastically while steering me away from my darkest thoughts. Mental health is just as important as physical health unless you think those who kill themselves due to dysphoria deserve it.
Mar 10, 2023 at 12:51amWeb
Show threadAngry CentristMar 10, 2023
@Lukako @jab01701mid @isotope239
Well, I guess high-minded Chad blocked me after issuing his ad-hominem screed... but of course he thinks *I* am the asshole. 🤷