My friends, get yourself a browser that doesn't play these kind of games.
You ever see a dialog box that tells you, with absolute certainty, that somebody's quarterly goals are slipping out of reach.

@mhoye as I say "somebody's OKR are right here"

I'm agile too to move away from it.

@mhoye
Glad I switched to Linux years ago, how do people put up with this?
@mhoye It’s wild that their approach is not to list features, or benefits, just to say make us the default because we are The Default
@mhoye It sucks because I really liked Edge just a couple years ago.
@KWierso @mhoye Same, I used to recommend it over Chrome before it started doing shit like this.
@jernej__s @KWierso @mhoye I'm still mostly ok with it after disabling the "Shopping" plug in, which was awful... but now it's mostly just I don't think the alternatives are much better.
@mhoye OMG that is quite a list
@mhoye they can't build a good product so they have to do stuff like this!
@mhoye is there one?
@josh I like Firefox, myself, but I work there.
@mhoye @josh The problem is Firefox does the same kind of shit Edge does. I didn't put those links on my homepage.
@mhoye @josh At least when Edge sneaks in "sponsored" links to my frequently visited sites it doesn't put them in the number 1 and number 2 slots, haha. They're hidden in the middle.

@blakeyrat @mhoye @josh

The macOS version of Firefox doesn't do this, FWIW.

@funcrunch @mhoye @josh Oh that makes it way better, doesn't it. "You use Windows? FUCK YOU!! ONLY MAC USERS NEED APPLY!!" Wow.

Why'd you tell me that? Just wanted to make me more pissed-off? Hahaha.

@blakeyrat @mhoye @josh

Now you know how us Mac users feel most of the time, lol.

If it makes you feel better, the sponsored links do appear on my iPad.

@funcrunch @mhoye @josh Before it was "ok Firefox is just yet another greedy company forcing shit on me to make money but inexplicably has this weird positive image among nerds for some reason", but after hearing that, now it feels, you know, like they're personally targeting me specifically.

I'm guessing Mozilla corp hands out Macs to their employees so they never have to stew in their own shit.

@blakeyrat @mhoye @josh

I dunno, @mozilla hardly seems like a "greedy company" to me...

https://foundation.mozilla.org/

Mozilla Foundation

Mozilla is a global nonprofit dedicated to keeping the Internet a global public resource that is open and accessible to all.

Mozilla Foundation
@funcrunch @mhoye @josh @mozilla Well you're welcome to your opinion, of course. And yet! I have sponsored links polluting my frequently-visited sites every time I open the damned thing. And they're implemented worse than Edge's version of same.
@blakeyrat @funcrunch @josh If you open your Firefox preferences, under "home" there's a checkbox for turning all that off.

@mhoye @funcrunch @josh Turns out you can turn it off in Edge too (which I've just done) but that's not really the point.

If the criteria is "the browser does bad stuff but it can be turned off" then we're just back to all browsers are the same. The defaults are what matter, IMO.

@mhoye @funcrunch @josh Anyway if you're interested in making the Firefox UX better in a way that would piss me off way less, don't do this: show my most recently-used websites then, about 0.2 milliseconds before I click on one, replace it by a sponsored link.

Do what Edge does and do all the nasty little link shuffling BEFORE you show it to the user, so the UI isn't shifting and changing beneath their mouse.

@mhoye @funcrunch @josh (Of course I know Firefox does that on purpose because they probably get paid based on how many of those links get clicked. "Oops! we have a software bug that just happens to make us more money! Whoosiedaisy!"

@mhoye @blakeyrat @josh

Thanks for this info; on my iPad, I had to go three menus deep into the settings to find it (Settings -> Homepage -> Shortcuts).

ETA: I now where this setting is on my Mac desktop as well; I had forgotten I turned off shortcuts on there a long time ago.

@mhoye @josh

Firefox rocks. Love Thunderbird too.

@mhoye
Allow AI to take the wheel. It knows best.
*Stares in 3 armed 7 fingered monster art that is supposed to be Keira Knightly*

@mhoye @jplebreton
see also https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@Doomed_Daniel/109948930118064185

after windows update, it wants to "finish setting up your PC", including "Enhance your web browsing experience", which translates to "make Edge the default"

Daniel Gibson (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image What about.. no? I don't want any of those things. "Remind me in 3 days" sounds awfully like "no means maybe" 😬 (Note that I only installed a Win10 update, this is *not* the first boot after a fresh installation where this might be *maybe remotely* acceptable)

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@mhoye it's ] this far [ from installing a toolbar
@HauntedOwlbear hand to god my first thought when I saw it was, when do I punch the monkey to win?
@mhoye, I have Microsof Edge only to play this surfer games (it's more complex than the dino game from Google Chrome).

@mhoye

So far I've liked Brave a lot, and I've been using it for three years. Good protection against everything, haven't had any problems.