“The reason most public transportation is seen as ‘losing’ money is precisely because it charges for trips. If you don't charge fares, suddenly it can't ‘lose’ money. It just costs money, the same as the roads.”

This random comment has given me my new favourite argument for removing fares from public transit.

@dx

It's the same logic that employees' salaries "cost" the company. No, dipshit, those employees are how your company MAKES money. Without them, all you have is paper that says you own an empty building. So pay them well.

I fucking hate capitalism.

@atatassault @dx

Also when your factory has a fire, and you claim to have "lost" money because of the production interruption. No, actually, you didn't lose money, you just didn't earn any.

That puts me in mind of gov.uk's excuse for not giving nurses (and others). a pay rise to properly account for inflation now (without even considering the last decade or so): “it might lead to more inflation”.

In terms of costs, it's “NHS staff pay costs the country”, but so does not having enough NHS staff due to them leaving for higher pay elsewhere.

@lp0_on_fire
Reminds me of the premier of Alberta a few years ago saying that paying the public sector "withdraws money from the economy."

No, Jason, giving no-strings tax breaks to corporations who use that gift to pay dividends, buy back stock, and wind down their local operations withdraws money from the economy!

@lp0_on_fire increasing their wages so that we pay health service workers properly isn't directly inflationary in the UK as we don't pay at point of use for their services, so they aren't priced in the inflation indices.