Katrags
@aintist @QasimRashid
Probably because they are not well educated and don't know the difference.
40 % of white evangelicals are functionally illiterate as of 2015.
54% of adult Americans read at a 6th grade level as of 2021.
These people don't know and don't care about the difference between a blastocyst, a feotus, and a baby.
Feb 26, 2023 at 2:42pmWeb
Show threadSouthern LeftistFeb 26, 2023

@Katrags @aintist @QasimRashid
Really? Wow must explain why they support a party that wants the state of healthcare to be the same as student loan debt.

Also, some evidence would be nice. I hate Christofascism but I love facts too.

Show threadKatragsFeb 26, 2023

@south_lib @aintist @QasimRashid
Here's a Snopes article about the 54%. I read the 40% number a few years ago ( clearly it stuck with me) and will need to dig to find it. Especially if I read it in a journal on Google Scholar.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/08/02/us-literacy-rate/

But here's the easy to find study that supports it , showing the negative relationship between religiosity and intelligence.

https://www.psypost.org/2019/11/meta-analysis-of-83-studies-produces-very-strong-evidence-for-a-negative-relationship-between-intelligence-and-religiosity-54897

Do More Than Half of Americans Read Below 6th-Grade Level?

Snopes.com
Show threadSouthern LeftistFeb 26, 2023

@Katrags @aintist @QasimRashid
Thanks, Psypost is a pro-science news site, so this makes me a lot less skeptical of this.

Thank you!

Also, take that, "religious conservatives"! Science says you're dumb! Haha!

Show threadAriaflameFeb 26, 2023
@Katrags @south_lib @aintist @QasimRashid Religiosity and education. Intelligence is a different thing. And do not get me started on IQ tests.
Show threadKatragsFeb 26, 2023
@ariaflame @south_lib @aintist @QasimRashid
Thank you for telling me you do not understand the subject of religion or IQ tests. Especially for white Americans.
Thank you for telling me you did not read the article or the study.
I have found the people that dismiss/ conflate education with intelligence lack in one or both.
Show threadAriaflameFeb 26, 2023
@Katrags @south_lib @aintist @QasimRashid Well, I'm not a white American so I guess not. And I was specifically NOT conflating education with intelligence. Lack of ability to read, for whatever reason, background, discouragement by culture or whatever is not a measure of intelligence. Intelligent people can be gullible too, especially if they are told lies all their lives. I pity the people raised in those religions. But I do not trust them.
Show threadKatragsFeb 26, 2023
@ariaflame @south_lib @aintist @QasimRashid
Thank you for proving my point. If you read the study, you would realize that you are a shining example of what they are talking about.
Show threadAriaflameFeb 26, 2023
@Katrags @south_lib @aintist @QasimRashid
I don't know what point you think I'm proving?
Show threadKatragsFeb 26, 2023
@ariaflame @south_lib @aintist @QasimRashid
Read the study, and if you are as smart as you claim, you will know the answer.
Show threadAriaflameFeb 26, 2023
@Katrags
The study itself or the article about it? What does any of it have to do with me, a non-American atheist? I'm afraid I'll have to wait on reading the actual paper until I get to work on campus and see if the university I work at has access to that journal.
Show threadAriaflameFeb 26, 2023
@Katrags And I did not make at that point any claims about my intelligence.
Show threadBlitzenFeb 26, 2023

@ariaflame what an incredibly odd person you've uncovered in this thread, adding them to my blocks 😵

Anyway, you don't need validation, but you're right and you're right to say it

Standardized testing of many kinds correlates very strongly with the education levels of the test subject's parents, for reasons that are complex and hard to capture in a study, but the effect has been documented

Show threadKatragsFeb 26, 2023

@south_lib @aintist @QasimRashid The intelligence level matters because if your IQ is in the low 80s or below, you start to struggle in 2nd/ 3rd grade with reading. You might not be able to read to learn.
2nd/3rd grade is the level of functionally illiterate.

BTW, that's probably the level Trump is at, which is a great example of how the FI can make it through life.

Show threadSouthern LeftistFeb 26, 2023

@Katrags @aintist @QasimRashid
Yep. I'm nullifidian, so I guess we can safely say that's helped me perform exponentially in school.

See? THIS is why we can't have religion/prayers in schools. It just detracts from education and makes us dumber.

Show threadKatragsFeb 26, 2023
@south_lib @aintist @QasimRashid
I went to Jesuit school, and it was great. They taught you to think and our religious studies were mostly comparative religions and the history of the Catholic Church, warts and all.
Religion is a part of society, and needs to be taught so that Americans can understand other cultures.
However, how religion is taught in most situations isn't education, its indoctrination.
Show threadSamCBornFeb 26, 2023
@Katrags @aintist @QasimRashid
Show threadSmitha 🌸🌋🎻Feb 26, 2023

@Katrags You're underestimating them. Most of the people at the January 6 riot were middle-class, middle-income, gainfully-employed folks. A lot of Republicans have a college degree and beyond.

And LOTS LOTS LOTS of right-wingers get abortions, while still assuming their reasoning is the exception compared to all those sluts and whores and baby-killers (obvious sarcasm), and still working to deny everyone else those same rights.

Show threadKatragsFeb 26, 2023
@smitha Actually, most of the J6 were only middle class due to being grandfathered into the union system decades ago. The vast majority are poorly educated with barely a high school degree.
As for the College educated, there are a LOT of highly/ poorly educated Americans, depending on where/when they went to school. I can think of 3 retired teachers I have worked with who could not read 6th grade level. This is due to the 20th century education system that rewarded effort, not mastery.