Amish Super ModelWeird how mental illness hardly shoots anyone in Canada.
JonKramer, CIS-HET@AmishSuperModel Universal Healthcare. It works.
Everybody loves Gordo@JonKramer @AmishSuperModel Well, unless you need mental health support within the next 6 to 12 months or so, but yeah, I do very much enjoy not having to check my bank balance before I decide if I'm going to get a detached extremity put back on.
@gordoooo_z @AmishSuperModel, have you priced mental health services or availability in the USA?
@JonKramer @AmishSuperModel No, but let me clarify that I was not implying that what we have here is not a better solution than the clusterfuck that is US health care, but that we still have room for improvement (and another self-guided CBT app is not going to cut it).
@gordoooo_z @JonKramer Let me clarify for you both, not that this isn’t a healthy debate.
The tweet meant that America doesn’t have the market cornered on mental illness, WE HAVE A GUN PROBLEM!
@AmishSuperModel @JonKramer That was not at all unclear. I would say "it shouldn't even need to be said" but clearly it does, and clearly it always has, but clearly it may not matter what anybody says about it. Is the gun control debate even about guns anymore?
It's more about whose side you're on. Meanwhile actual people are being actually shot with actual bullets while monied people in high places argue about their favourite colour.
@gordoooo_z @AmishSuperModel , it should be noted who does the shooting. Despite having the same access to guns, women do not commit mass murders or gun crimes. It isn't "the guns". It IS young conservative men. We seem to ignore this, I'm guessing because it isn't politically correct to make the observation. But this is real. The next mass shooter (killing strangers) will be a young white Christian male. This can't be ignored.
@JonKramer @gordoooo_z I am NOT disagreeing with either of you. Testosterone-fueled shootings run rampant in America. Crazy white males and mass shootings draw big media, but urban crime is constant. Either way, the problem is EASY ACCESS TO GUNS! Whether it’s urban gangs, mental health, or males—the issue is easy access to guns! Check where the guns come from in Chicago crimes.
@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z , I disagree. If you take away guns, the root cause remains. The homicide rates won't change. The weapons will change, but I have never met anyone who said "I'm glad my child was beaten to death with a bat, instead of being shot", so I don't see this as an improvement. Nations that ban guns don't see drops in homicide rates. We need to refocus on the root cause. Even if that isn't politically correct.
The problem is disease. Mental disease, affecting young men. POTUS should order the CDC to investigate. But, this seems to be another 3rd rail of politics. It's just easier to blame guns...
@JonKramer @AmishSuperModel obviously the gun itself isn't the root cause of gun violence. Somebody has to pull the trigger and there's definitely something in the water down there--nd in the last few years probably the milk, the grass, the air, I digress--but the fact is still that if you want to do the most damage with the most efficiency, well, an AR-15 seems like a pretty good choice*. Not too many of that style of weapon in Canada.
@JonKramer @AmishSuperModel *Or you know, a van or something, but I can think of a few practical reasons for having one of those on your driveway. Reason I bring that up is that incel in Toronto that decided to mow down a bunch of people a few years ago. Obviously the van didn't make him do it, and that's a tougher nut (pun not intended but I like it just the same) to crack.