Having a fiber connection means I can now try GeForce Now's Ultimate tier, which is being upgraded to 4080 GPUs in some European server locations.
Here's Cyberpunk 2077, at Ray-Tracing Ultra quality, never dropping below 60fps. I am *streaming* this game on my iPhone via a web app.
Absolutely wild.
@bleakfuture @viticci comes down to network speed / data caps (if applicable), and at least for me I very much notice the lag over Wi-Fi, but it’s OK when whatever I’m playing on is plugged straight to the router.
Some people are more sensitive to that lag than others.
Plus there’s the people who prefer to own physical. With services like these if/when they shut down you typically don’t have access to your “purchases” any longer.
@Sonikku @viticci actually had a 4K TV delivered today for my office so I can connect a PS5 to it. That was prompted by reading that the new wizard game everyone hates simply can’t run 4K ultra settings with all the goodies @ 60fps
Like the hardware to do it doesn’t exist. 4090 gets you 59fps. A 4090 costs more than my first car and it struggles with a current game.
PS5 will be fine.
@bleakfuture @viticci yeah, there’s only a few games hitting native 4k60 on consoles too (GT7 and Doom Eternal come to mind) but I do like that many console games these days have various performance and resolution options depending on your preference.
If the choice is 4K30 or like 1440p60 I’m taking the frame rate all day long. Then you have crazy people like Insomniac Games managing to do 60fps and raytracing on console.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2HrOxwH0_Q
At 43 I just prefer convenience and not having to chase the bleeding edge upgrades and tweaking everything. Just let me start a game and give me 2 or 3 graphics options and call it a day.
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