Stop asking how the poor are going to get to work without cars, and start asking why the rich won't let the poor live close to their jobs.
@danlyke Give us the cars and then ask whatever you want.
@katow one step better, we're gonna make it so you can't survive in society without owning a car!
@danlyke You don't get it. We want cars and we are gonna get them one way or another.

@katow yep, that certainly is the current situation.

Though I think a strong case has been made that we want cars largely because of social manipulation, and they don't make us happier.

@danlyke Lets see what happen when we have our cars. Let's get sciencey.

@katow pretty sure we're seeing that. It's a disaster, with externalities of at least half a buck per mile, probably actually over a buck, and a bunch of entitled whiners complaining about traffic.

But, because the loud voices win, we'll keep killing people so that we can live in isolation. Sigh.

@danlyke We are not seeing shit. WE
DON'T
HAVE
CARS
@katow well, y'all do what ya gotta do, but we in the United States can no longer afford to structure our society around them, and there rest of the world bears the weight of our car dependence arguably as much as we do.
@danlyke Give us your cars.
Everybody happy!

@katow I suspect the better solution is to help countries and populations which need a leg up to do so without becoming car dependent. That way everyone ends up happier.

Giving out cars just increases the global unhappiness.

@danlyke Why is that rich people always 'know' what poor people need to be happy? Just try to listen next time.
@katow why do you think you have to remake the same mistakes rather than learning from a century of failure and destruction?
@katow looking at a century of US history and saying "I want my society dominated by cars" is like looking at the history of WW1 and saying "I wish I had more mustard gas in my neighborhood".
@danlyke why do you think all the world is like you. Just listen.
Is you don't listen, you are a problem for the world. Stop patronizing.
@katow @danlyke speak for yourself, I hate the things.
@katow @danlyke That mental mode is what research is now referring to as #motonormativity .

www.theverge.com/2023/1/31/235…
norden.social/@SheDrivesMobili…
Cars are rewiring our brains to ignore all the bad stuff about driving

A new study coins the term “motornormativity” to describe the unconscious biases people form around the societal ills and inequities of automobile driving.

The Verge