daniel s.you can't reform this
mischief brewer@selfagency there are no good cops. The ones that might be considered "good" either don't get hired (pictured) or quit quickly
FoolishOwl@mbrewer @selfagency Nor is this new. The fact that "good cops" are weeded out has been known for generations.
You can't talk of the police being corrupted because there was never a time police were anything but evil.
Stuart (moved)@foolishowl @mbrewer @selfagency
Oh what a sad and, dare I say, ill informed post.
I am in the jurisdiction of London's Metropolitan police who have an appalling record of corruption and abuse. I've supported campaigns to right wrongs. The current culture issues are not exaggerated.
Yet I have met numerous good police going well beyond their duty. They are there - or you should be doing everything to get them there.
The fight against corruption can only win if we find and empower them.
RDS (shawphd on Twitter)@stuart @foolishowl @mbrewer @selfagency That has little bearing on what happens in US police departments.
@shawrd773 @foolishowl @mbrewer @selfagency
This thread is about all cops and police being bad per se. There was no specificity about a particular police department, state or country. Problems and solutions vary and we all have much to learn from each other.
Just abolishing policing is certainly a brave policy. The alternate is to find ways of curbing its excesses. Do we have a real choice?
@stuart @shawrd773 @foolishowl @mbrewer yeah the real choice is not to spend billions of dollars annually to arm people who have a penchant for killing minorities with military grade weapons and instead slash their budgets and reinvest that money in things like mental health resources, peer mediation counselors, after school programs, and other things proven to reduce violence.
@stuart @shawrd773 @foolishowl @mbrewer if you want to reduce crime like theft, reduce poverty. if you want to reduce crime like murder, reduce the availability of guns. if you want to reduce gendered violence, reduce socially acceptable toxic masculinity. we have solutions for every problem. but the real problem is: we only ever throw cops at our problems instead of actual solutions — especially when solutions involve disrupting capitalists raking in money hand over fist.
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@selfagency @shawrd773 @foolishowl @mbrewer
Absolutely agree.
The only question is how you achieve it. Abolishing the police and presumably relying on anarchy might work. I'd prefer a less risky route even if it took longer and was less complete.