James Cook
Tootuncommon 🪬THIS.
Diligence Jones@junkyardspaceship
I'm constantly surprised at how many people don't necessarily agree with that.
@DeliaChristina it’s obscene
JMD@DeliaChristina @junkyardspaceship and that's the problem ! It is not police or the cops fault only! In fact it's the society - the society gives the cops the power to do what they do - through the law (the propaganda "more power to Police to fight the crime" is always used and works! ) and the public acceptance when the law is broken by Police (as it was obvious that Police is always right).
David Wright@JMD777 @DeliaChristina @junkyardspaceship that still doesn't give them permission to beat up or kill people... It at least, only in very specific circumstances.
Most police respect the law, some bad apples don't.
I grew up with UK officers & met many in Germany, most had never had to draw a baton, let alone gun (UK didn't have guns, anway).
Most police respect the law, some bad apples don't.
I grew up with UK officers & met many in Germany, most had never had to draw a baton, let alone gun (UK didn't have guns, anway).
Kathy Carbone@junkyardspaceship Nor American citizens…like the restaurant customer who murdered a robber by shooting him in the back as he was leaving, then shorting him numerous more times as he lay face down bleeding.
Phil@Heartsonycgr @junkyardspaceship what on earth has that got to do with the original point?
Ridiculous whataboutism right there.
Well done for undermining a serious point.
Ridiculous whataboutism right there.
Well done for undermining a serious point.
@Phil_C @junkyardspaceship Neither is acceptable and both are symptoms of our insane gun culture.
@Heartsonycgr @junkyardspaceship and there's me thinking police have been beating innocent people to death, choking them to death. Something entirely unrelated to gun culture.
But thanks for trying to dilute down a serious point by introducing another completely different one.
Like I said, laughable whataboutism.
But thanks for trying to dilute down a serious point by introducing another completely different one.
Like I said, laughable whataboutism.
@Phil_C @junkyardspaceship Gun culture sets up an adversarial relationship with citizens and police. So does militarism of police culture. So does racism. Aggression and killing of citizens can be done by a number of means. Appears you can’t deal with more than one serious issue at a time. Sad to b a one trick pony in a complex world. Your anger towards me simply reflects your inability to analyze multi level issues, Pollyanna.
@Heartsonycgr @junkyardspaceship perhaps you would like to study history and understand how many law enforcement agencies were born from the desire to control black people. Here's a useful primer for you.
https://ekuonline.eku.edu/blog/police-studies/brief-history-slavery-and-origins-american-policing/
I would then suggest that the inherent power boundary of law enforcement is the critical factor referred to in the original post, not guns.
Police brutality NOT gun violence are the triggers for recent police criticism.
@Phil_C @junkyardspaceship Simple minded you are, oh young one. Linear thinker, and inexperienced & ignorant to boot. Lack any logical thinking skills. You belong on Twitter. What are you doing on Mastodon talking to grown ups?
@Heartsonycgr @junkyardspaceship if you think that gun culture is the reason for an adversarial relationship between the police and the public then:
1) you know very little about history
2) you have no comprehension of systemic racism within the USA
3) And you appear you have forgotten that slavery and segregation are even a thing
I bet Rosa Parks felt an adversarial relationship with the police because of guns and nothing to do with segregation & discrimination.
Idiot.
@Phil_C @junkyardspaceship OMG yr ignorance is boundless. & U suffer fr Dunning Kruger. Did you know I took care of people in a very poor black community for 13 years? Or that I cared for a 13yo black child (& many others) who died w a bullet in his brain fr collateral damage in a gun street fight? Or took care of hundreds of poor black IVDU w AIDS in 1980s who ALL died? U smug & ignorant bastard. U know NOTHING. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
@Phil_C @junkyardspaceship PS. As a UK resident, what the hell do you know about the ramifications of gun culture in the USA?
@Heartsonycgr @junkyardspaceship Imagine trying to take the intellectual high ground with a bio that uses the nonexistent word scotophile in it.
Scotophil, is a word; and it seems more apt for you as it refers to something that thrives in darkness.
Someone who loves Scotland would be an Anglophile. Although "lover of Scotland" would be more correct as it specifies the country rather than the nation.
Just read some books.
@Phil_C @junkyardspaceship 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Once again showing the limits of your bounded intellect. As a lifelong research scientist & physician advancing new knowledge was my business. Graduated from Harvard College, first in my med school class, clinical training & faculty at Johns Hopkins SOM, Research Director @ CBER FDA, Dep Scientific Director @ NIDCR NIH, Chief of Medicine @ VA Hospital. You play w computers, hopefully not in your mother’s basement. 🤔Go back 2 Twitter, troll.
@Heartsonycgr @junkyardspaceship I can speak French but I don't live in France. It's called learning, try it some time.
You're so stupid that you took a post about police brutality /physical violence, and thought it was specifically about gun culture.
Kindly explain how Tyre Nichols was killed with a gun?
Jesus you don't even have as good a grip on your own domestic news as I do, you halfwit.
You're so stupid that you took a post about police brutality /physical violence, and thought it was specifically about gun culture.
Kindly explain how Tyre Nichols was killed with a gun?
Jesus you don't even have as good a grip on your own domestic news as I do, you halfwit.
@Phil_C @junkyardspaceship Bad analogy. Police in the USA carry guns all the time & use them. Police violence takes many forms. How many times do I need to explain it to you? “deaths…caused by police – due to being shot, beaten, restrained, intentionally hit by a police vehicle, pepper sprayed, tasered” etc https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2020-06-03/data-show-deaths-from-police-violence-disproportionately-affect-people-of-color
Mattie@junkyardspaceship @dramypsyd I’m having a hard time finding the source (just to credit the artist) but I think it might be this? https://www.tumblr.com/speciesofleastconcern/648575884184485888
Dr. Amy, Psy.D.@zigg Thank you!
@zigg @dramypsyd I got it off a friend on Instagram and he got it elsewhere as well. I don’t know the source. I wish I could provide it
FiXato@zigg I dug a bit deeper, and also found it listed on this Red Bubble shop: https://www.redbubble.com/i/sticker/Cops-Aren-t-Supposed-to-Kill-Guilty-People-Either-Protest-Sign-BLM-Black-Lives-Matter-End-Police-Brutality-by-danadrewdles/54152688.EJUG5
Now that in itself isn't really conclusive as Red Bubble is full of people taking credit for other people's work unfortunately...
But Dana Drewdles does have a website with portfolio work, and while I couldn't find this image listed on it, her other work does seem to have the same style: https://www.danadrewdles.com/
@junkyardspaceship @dramypsyd
Zorume 
@zigg @junkyardspaceship @dramypsyd
This tumblr has reposted the pic.
Artist is danadrewdles and original post is here : https://www.instagram.com/p/CESqvhPAFVe/
This tumblr has reposted the pic.
Artist is danadrewdles and original post is here : https://www.instagram.com/p/CESqvhPAFVe/
dana drew on Instagram: "And what about people who aren’t guilty? What’s the excuse for their murders? • No one should be shot multiple times by the police. With no confirmed weapon or attack. In the back. Seven times. In front of their children. Especially during a otherwise nonviolent interaction. And yes - regardless of their criminal history. • And please stop sharing video of it and forcing others to live through the trauma. We don’t need to see graphic videos of violence against black lives to believe them that this is real. Please see my story and “social justice” highlight for ways to help. • This is not fucking political. The police are not the judge, jury and executioner. No one should live in fear of the police because of their race. Unarmed and compliant civilians should never be murdered by those who are meant to protect them. If this is a “mistake” or “not all cops” then the system should be fucking fixed. Funding should be given to systems that will prevent and deescalate, not aggravate and overreact. • This was of my first drawings for this page back in June. It says a lot about our country that this is hands down the most “controversial” drawing I’ve posted based on the many comments and DMs. It actually was the catalyst to my lengthy blocked words list. This helps protect me from seeing the rage of racist, Trump loving users on this app, some of whom even sent me death threats over this particular little doodle. • So many comments like, “They should if they’re being shot at.” This bizarre redirect is pathetic and transparent. None of the black lives taken by police in the non-violent moments were shooting at anyone. Imagine being so blind to a problem that this is your reply? Or rather, so scared of losing your own privileges and power that you (actively or without realizing - both fucked up) choose to continue to oppress and support the murder of BIPOC through systematic racism? • Alarming how much my drawing skills have improved in a matter of three months and how little has been done to improve the safety of black lives in the hands of the police. #defundthepolice"
121K Likes, 2,437 Comments - dana drew (@danadrewdles) on Instagram: "And what about people who aren’t guilty? What’s the excuse for their murders? • No one should be shot multiple times by the police. With no confirmed weapon or attack. In the back. Seven times. In front of their children. Especially during a otherwise nonviolent interaction. And yes - regardless of their criminal history. • And please stop sharing video of it and forcing others to live through the trauma. We don’t need to see graphic videos of violence against black lives to believe them that this is real. Please see my story and “social justice” highlight for ways to help. • This is not fucking political. The police are not the judge, jury and executioner. No one should live in fear of the police because of their race. Unarmed and compliant civilians should never be murdered by those who are meant to protect them. If this is a “mistake” or “not all cops” then the system should be fucking fixed. Funding should be given to systems that will prevent and deescalate, not aggravate and overreact. • This was of my first drawings for this page back in June. It says a lot about our country that this is hands down the most “controversial” drawing I’ve posted based on the many comments and DMs. It actually was the catalyst to my lengthy blocked words list. This helps protect me from seeing the rage of racist, Trump loving users on this app, some of whom even sent me death threats over this particular little doodle. • So many comments like, “They should if they’re being shot at.” This bizarre redirect is pathetic and transparent. None of the black lives taken by police in the non-violent moments were shooting at anyone. Imagine being so blind to a problem that this is your reply? Or rather, so scared of losing your own privileges and power that you (actively or without realizing - both fucked up) choose to continue to oppress and support the murder of BIPOC through systematic racism? • Alarming how much my drawing skills have improved in a matter of three months and how little has been done to improve the safety of black lives in the hands of the police. #defundthepolice"
OSCrane@junkyardspaceship Police shouldn't be killing ANYONE, period. The purpose of the police is not to be the public's last line of defense or whatever white supremacist machismo bullshit they think they are. Their job is to PROTECT and SERVE. Of course, violence will happen, but the police should never initiate it, only respond to it.
Our system of law DOES NOT work. Police officers are less disciplined than mafia triggermen, courts are actively working to disenfranchise and dehumanize those that write their checks, and a worryingly large percentage of our elected officials want to force us under their boot heels.
This issue does not stem from the police, but from the broken, rotten foundations on which this country was built. We the People need to come together to change this from the ground up, or we may never get the chance if the people who benefit most from this system get their way.
Florrie@OSCrane @junkyardspaceship according to SCOTUS police have no obligation to protect and serve. They are only supposed to protect those in custody (and we know how well they do that!). According to Encyclopedia Britannica: Police typically are responsible for maintaining public order and safety, enforcing the law, and preventing, detecting, and investigating criminal activities. And looking at the numbers, they're not all that great at any of their jobs.
John CarlsenFourteenth Amendment
"... No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws ..."
Notice that thing about life. If you can't stop the cop from killing, the killer cop must face the scrutiny of due process of law.
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J🍩hn Fünk@junkyardspaceship Cops aren't supposed to decide whether someone is innocent or guilty. That's the jury's job. The cops are just supposed to help arranging the meeting.
Trip@junkyardspaceship It's amazing to me the number of people who will claim to agree with this statement, and then amend it with "but if they hadn't been breaking the law...," thus negating the premise entirely.
@triphazard THATS EXACTLY MY POINT! thank you!
JamesTDG@junkyardspaceship I think a lot of these cops saw way too much judge dredd
@JamesTDG they saw a lot too much of everything! The worse problem is they’ve seen nothing as far as consequences.
Tim Y.C 🌐🌍@junkyardspaceship this is key. This is why we have a jury of our peers to judge us
SparkleTea@junkyardspaceship
100% this
Arrest someone isn't permission to impose the death penalty.
Evey@junkyardspaceship Yes, as that’s for the courts to decide.