Vic McFizzlesticksI think I'm a #Unitarian of the Third Person of the Trinity (again).
More plainly, that means I think the Holy Spirit is as much god as anyone ought to need.
davey@fizzlesticks Hokay, what's the difference between this and monotheism?
@davey I suppose it's a heretical sort of monotheism.
@fizzlesticks --and also a heretical sort of trinitarianism? (But to Buddhists it's all one?)
@davey Yes, I think you're right on both accounts.
I'm also find value in #Panentheism, not to be confused with pantheism, it's more popular sibling.
@fizzlesticks Panentheism sounds kinda like the premise of divine solipsism. Do I have that right?
@fizzlesticks Thank you. It passeth my understanding, but I do get that the meaning is different from my superficial take. Maybe if preventative grace should strike me ...
@davey I love that! Preventative grace!
@fizzlesticks Well I'm presuming that Augustine's (?) idea was the supplied grace steered the sinner toward conversion, away from the depths.
@davey Panenthism is literally world-inside-God-ism. It's more about the relation between God and the universe than the nature of God.
@fizzlesticks Thank you, but in my unenlightened state (the dimmer is right over there, though) the concept of world-inside-god has the flavor of "Am I the monk dreaming of the lotus, or the lotus dreaming of the monk" or however the trope goes.
@davey I hear ya. Another way to think of it is "He's got the whole world in his hands" theology.
@fizzlesticks . . .which steers awful close to the universe as a toy. And predestination, which follows naturally from that sort of prestidigitation.
@davey I admire Augustine's intellect but am not much of a fan.
And as someone who was raised Methodist, I am conditioned to root against Calvinism lol.
@fizzlesticks Consider me to have responded to your Calvinism comment with some comment about Hobbesian autocracy. (Madness there, more than Method.)