Amy WesterveltJan 27, 2023
I was not surprised to learn recently that the gas industry has known for 100+ years that gas stoves contributed to dangerous levels of indoor air pollution. I *was* surprised to learn that the government pub'd reports on it and the media covered it in a big way in the 1980s and fuck-all happened. Jesus how many versions of this story are we gonna live through? https://www.drilledpodcast.com/gas-knew-too-everything-you-need-to-know-on-climate-this-week/
Gas Knew, Too + Everything You Need to Know on Climate This Week

As the whole gas stove "culture war" rages on, it's important to remember that gas companies have known for over a century (?!) that breathing gas in your home is quite harmful to human health. Seems like a no-brainer right? But I know I was definitely of the mind that cooking

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Show threadJanne MorenJan 28, 2023

@amywestervelt Just note that in actual use the food you cook will be the largest contributor to air pollution, not the stove.

So whatever stove you use, make sure you have proper range ventilation outside, and make sure you replace filters and clean it regularly.

Show threadDave Mangot

@jannem @amywestervelt citation?

The studies commissioned by the California Air Resources Board show that even cooking the same food on different stoves produces different exposures.

Your statement could be construed as it's irrelevant what you use to cook because the biggest problem is that you made a choice to cook food.

Jan 28, 2023 at 10:41pmWeb
Show threadJanne MorenJan 29, 2023

@davemangot @amywestervelt Not at all irrelevant. If you can get an IH stove absolutely do so. Not just for the air quality; open flames are dangerous.

But it's not enough. Also make sure you have proper ventilation. In most places building code will require it of course, but you also do need to maintain it - cleaning your range exhaust sucks but you need to do it.

Show threadDave MangotJan 29, 2023

@jannem @amywestervelt
I'd still be interested in reading a study that backs up "the food you cook will be the largest contributor to air pollution, not the stove."

I have been unable to find such data.

https://nyti.ms/3XLzeNH

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Show threadAmy WesterveltJan 29, 2023
@davemangot @jannem oooh that's a GREAT point, I would also be very curious to see a study comparing food emissions to stove emissions
Show threadJanne MorenJan 30, 2023

@davemangot @amywestervelt Here's the first result of a quick search:

https://monographs.iarc.who.int/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/mono95-7.pdf

Show threadDave MangotJan 30, 2023

@jannem @amywestervelt you're playing games. You jump into a thread about the long known dangers of gas stoves with a statement about how the food is more dangerous.

When pressed you produce a paper that summarizes a lengthy series of studies that say there is particulate matter generated from food but does not substantiate your statement anywhere.

Basically only contributing gas industry FUD. I'm done, blocking.