Adi RobertsonIt’s very funny to me that the dominant Twentieth Century conception of AI was a slightly awkward nerd with an inhuman mastery of facts and logic, when what we actually got is smooth-talking bullshit artists who can’t do eighth-grade math.
author_is_ShrikeTron🔠💉x5@thedextriarchy Otoh, HAL9000 would be fairly realistic right now, by that description.
Bernd Herd@ShrikeTron @thedextriarchy No, HAL9000 got the facts right and applied the consequences in all it's inhumanity. ChatGPT does not get any facts right.
Ben Crowell@herdsoft @ShrikeTron @thedextriarchy
"No, HAL9000 got the facts right and applied the consequences in all it's inhumanity."
Sounds like you need to re-watch the best SF movie ever made.
Hal initially knows the facts but lies because he's ordered to by a government bureaucracy. Then he gets emotionally conflicted and starts to lie in order to accomplish what they've told him should be his goal. As time goes on, and his psychosis deepens, it becomes unclear whether he knows what's true.
"No, HAL9000 got the facts right and applied the consequences in all it's inhumanity."
Sounds like you need to re-watch the best SF movie ever made.
Hal initially knows the facts but lies because he's ordered to by a government bureaucracy. Then he gets emotionally conflicted and starts to lie in order to accomplish what they've told him should be his goal. As time goes on, and his psychosis deepens, it becomes unclear whether he knows what's true.
@ben_crowell_fullerton @ShrikeTron @thedextriarchy The way I understood the book (and the movie) HAL was strictly rational. Hal had the task to complete the mission even if his human co-workers should fail. And to hide some mission goals from the humans. So it rationalized that its presence would be mission-critical. When the humans considered shutting it down, it was logical to prevent them from doing so by murdering them.
@herdsoft @ShrikeTron @thedextriarchy You've got the order of events wrong, and you're also mistaken about some of the cause and effect issues. The Wikipedia article seems accurate, if you want to refresh your memory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey_(film)
