I now have registered for the 2023 International Laser Safety Conference. I look forward to finding out new things that I will then take to DEFCON and have many lulz about. Last time in 2019, I learned how the solution to self-driving cars is to put more powerful lasers on fine German engineering and make windshields opaque. ZERO PROBLEMS!

What about bystander laser strikes? Pfft, there shouldn't be any of those on the Autobahn. How do you prevent those lasers from being used outside of the Autobahn? Interlocked permission signals from road sensors obviously.

ZERO. PROBLEMS.

The several presentations on this topic were, at core, a desperate plea from German automakers via funded research to be allowed to use *MUCH* more powerful LiDAR pucks than they currently are. It very much is a "You can do that, but have you considered any consequences of your choices?" kind of thing.

They had not.

Perhaps you have given almost two seconds of thought to this concept and come up with some potential problems this might run into. They didn't seem to have been troubled by such thoughts.

This is why I sometimes think the engineers I meet that share their brilliant ideas for projects are actually aliens who have never encountered humans before.

@funranium there's gotta be a good name for that worldview which is something like:

1. All humans are incorruptible, rational actors (like Data from Star Trek)
2. The world began yesterday, a tabula rasa with no politics, history, inequity.
3. All tech systems are infallible and work 100% as designed all the time.

@vikasgorur "Aggressively Naïve"

Because they don't just hold this worldview, they vehemently deny attempts to tell them that they're wrong and become very mad when the world refuses to conform to their beliefs.

there is something similar with pure software developers/engineers...

some of the devs in our institution seem to be completely oblivious to the duct tape reality of running things in actual production...

@funranium @vikasgorur

@number137 @funranium

yep!

there used to be a saying about how the internet was originally built -- "rough consensus and working code"

It's a great philosophy for all engineers. Run a few batch jobs and get shit done instead of building overly complex "perfect" systems.

@vikasgorur @number137 But there is a safety and security person like me repeating “Remember, thou art mortal” in their ear to remind them that what’s been done is never done. PROBLEM SOLVED FOREVER, never is.