Mike Masnick ✅Hey @Popehat, would you have had some useful legal advice for Alec Baldwin?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/25/opinion/alec-baldwin-rust-5th-amendment.html?smid=tw-share
Martijn VosIs this not something that should be fixed, though? Shouldn't there be more trust between the police and the people? Shouldn't you be able to talk to the police to help them solve a case, without getting screwed over a technicality?
Because as far as I understand, a lot of countries do not have this advice not to talk to the police. And not because they don't have something similar to the 5th, but because they don't have a police force looking to screw you over. This "never talk to the police" sounds to me like a terrible indictment of the US legal system.
Because as far as I understand, a lot of countries do not have this advice not to talk to the police. And not because they don't have something similar to the 5th, but because they don't have a police force looking to screw you over. This "never talk to the police" sounds to me like a terrible indictment of the US legal system.
Nicklas Johnson 🏳️🌈You're not wrong.
More generally, my impression is that, by and large, #police in the US see their job (wrongly) as one of keeping the public in-line, like this is a day care and they see themselves as the adults and us as the disruptive children who need discipline.
This attitude is also incompatible with our lofty platitudes about "freedom" and "liberty". Just try being weird in public, without even breaking any laws, and watch how quickly cops come to contain you.
Olav@spatula
@mcv @LibertyForward1
Even in California, cops go to cop school taught by cops. There are no real prerequisites such as a 2-year associates degree in criminal justice. So they don't actually have to know anything about law other than other cops with their prejudices tell them.
@mcv @LibertyForward1
Even in California, cops go to cop school taught by cops. There are no real prerequisites such as a 2-year associates degree in criminal justice. So they don't actually have to know anything about law other than other cops with their prejudices tell them.
@olavf
And frickin' BARBERS have more schooling and more stringent professional requirements than cops have in California, plus more oversight.
@spatula
The beautician/barber lobby is well funded, and they're absolute obstructionists. They'll fight against anything that makes it easier to get a job, and promote anything that makes it harder
So they want fewer seats to keep their prices high.
Otoh the cop industry lobbies for more cops. It only makes their lives easier and they know it won't affect their paycheck