RyuWith @[email protected] I’m not sure why I will pay for Ivory. Nothing against paid apps, just hate subscriptions. I would pay for a new version of an app yearly, but will never pay a regular sum per month to rent it.
John Gruber@ryuworks @[email protected] IceCubes is good so if you’re happy, you’re happy. But you do realize that “paying for a new version once a year” isn’t possible on the App Store unless it’s a subscription, right?
@gruber @[email protected] maybe not every year, but apps like Reeder release new versions every now and then, on a regular basis. Tweetbot too, until version 6. There are some of us who prefer this monetisation method over subscriptions for apps.
Guillaume Laurent@ryuworks @gruber @[email protected] as far as I can tell, it's a major hassle for the devs, a medium hassle for the users, and it leaves the App Store littered with old app versions. Really not scalable at all.
@glaurent @gruber @[email protected] Not sure if it’s really a hassle for users. The hassle of calling Apple for refunds after realising you have forgotten to cancel a subscription is probably bigger. And old versions of apps can be taken off so they won’t be “littering” the App Store. Devs know that they will alienate a sizable portion of their users once they go subscription, that is probably why they price subs high enough to cover their potential losses.
@ryuworks @glaurent @[email protected] If you don’t like subscriptions, I get it. But that’s where commercial software has gone, especially on the App Store. Your choice, effectively, is to pay for subscriptions or stick to free apps.
@gruber @glaurent @[email protected] Fortunately for now the majority of the apps I used either have a one-time purchase IAP or are outright paid apps. I’m really just forgoing Ivory/Tweetbot from my previous list of apps. Maybe things will change in the future, but that’s a story for another day. Especially if the App Store stops being the only game in town.
@ryuworks @glaurent @[email protected] But how many of those one-time IAP apps have been around for more than 5 years?
@gruber @glaurent @[email protected] Apollo is. And a couple more that I use and reinstall less frequently. The rest of them are paid apps.
@ryuworks @glaurent @[email protected] Do you think Apollo gets updated more regularly with more features than most apps?
Aaron Abernethy@ryuworks @gruber @glaurent @icecubesapp Apollo has a pretty large number of subscription payers like myself. I would assume they are carrying the users who don’t. You’d have to ask @christianselig though.
Christian Selig@theronster @ryuworks @gruber @glaurent @[email protected] In my experience the vast majority of users are fine with a reasonably priced subscription that provides ongoing value, it's not as alien/weird as it was in like, 2016 for instance. (A small group is quite vocal though and can seem large.)
I'll mention that resubmitting a brand new app is just a terrible idea though, you'd lose so much SEO, high review rating, any lists/features your app was added to, Editor's Choice status, etc.
Paul McGrane@ryuworks @gruber @glaurent @[email protected] The official Reddit app does get updated essentially weekly with apparently no changes and obscure bug fixes.