RyuWith @[email protected] I’m not sure why I will pay for Ivory. Nothing against paid apps, just hate subscriptions. I would pay for a new version of an app yearly, but will never pay a regular sum per month to rent it.
John Gruber@ryuworks @[email protected] IceCubes is good so if you’re happy, you’re happy. But you do realize that “paying for a new version once a year” isn’t possible on the App Store unless it’s a subscription, right?
@gruber @[email protected] maybe not every year, but apps like Reeder release new versions every now and then, on a regular basis. Tweetbot too, until version 6. There are some of us who prefer this monetisation method over subscriptions for apps.
Guillaume Laurent@ryuworks @gruber @[email protected] as far as I can tell, it's a major hassle for the devs, a medium hassle for the users, and it leaves the App Store littered with old app versions. Really not scalable at all.
@glaurent @gruber @[email protected] Not sure if it’s really a hassle for users. The hassle of calling Apple for refunds after realising you have forgotten to cancel a subscription is probably bigger. And old versions of apps can be taken off so they won’t be “littering” the App Store. Devs know that they will alienate a sizable portion of their users once they go subscription, that is probably why they price subs high enough to cover their potential losses.
@ryuworks @gruber @[email protected] AFAIC, having to purchase and install a new version of an app and getting rid of the old one is a hassle and I much prefer a subscription, that canceling is just a few taps away.
The old versions have to stay for a while for the benefit of users who haven't updated.
Not sure if subscriptions really alienate that many users these days, I doubt I'm the only one preferring them.
@glaurent @gruber @[email protected] As a iOS dev yourself I guess you definitely prefer subscriptions. As mentioned, there are some of us who prefer to buy apps outright. Maybe over time there will be less and less of us and everything will go subscription only. Or maybe more people start having subscription fatigue and start culling their subscription lists, putting a bunch of devs out of business. The market will eventually work things out.
@glaurent @ryuworks @[email protected] That method (completely new SKU for each new version) works so poorly in the App Store that I’m not aware of a single app or game that still uses it. It doesn’t work.
Todd Hensley@gruber @glaurent @ryuworks @icecubesapp please do not retire an existing app and create a “new” one as the next major version. I stop using apps that pull that nonsense.