Really hate this idea of video chat software faking eye contact. Not because of presenting something that doesn't reflect reality, but because its reifying a neurotypical model of what is right and good in how humans present themselves

@recursive and also, like, maybe we don’t need to make digital remote communication more like being in person. No matter the iteration it never feels right. No matter the iteration, we’re still not in the same place having a fully shared experience, each of us has a second,l context the other only gets a window into.

Maybe it’s ok that it feels that way too?

@crayzeigh @recursive I’m fine with voice, but the insistence on everything going video brings few benefits, all of them in personal communication. Group/corporate benefits from screen sharing but could be a screensaver (remember those?) the rest of the time and it would probably improve the experience.
@solient @crayzeigh I happen to enjoy being visible in video chat, but I mostly have no patience for meetings where I'm not an active participant. The times I've wanted to be not seen are the times I'd be obviously bored. Now my gaze probably goes all over the place anyway
@recursive @solient @crayzeigh I know mine does, because I lost all masking ability over the past few years apparently and welp
@recursive @solient same, mostly. For the most part I like seeing and being seen on calls with folks, especially in smaller groups. But I’m ok with the regular eye contact or lack and with non-video participation? It’s probably ok that people look all over the place and we normalize that? Or that sometimes people just don’t need to be on camera for dozens of reasons that aren’t anyone’s business
@solient @crayzeigh @recursive I like video because seeing people's lips makes it easier to understand what they're saying and seeing people's expressions lets me know if they're getting what I'm saying. I used to teach ESL over video--teaching over audio only would be basically impossible. But yeah I don't care about eye contact and that is an extremely weird/creepy feature to add