Kevin RussellMastodon isnt just a life-raft, mastodon is how we win.
The next big thing is not corporate apps. Not corporate anything.
We arent running away from elon, we're replacing him.
seeteegee@kevinrns great, so what’s the funding model and plan to get billions of people on here? Also, how to deal with all the sociological and legal issues at that scale? Who’s going to work out the deal with Twitter that allows us to use one app that works with both systems during the transition period?
Brendan Jones@seeteegee @kevinrns the funding model is simple, you pay to be on your instance. It doesn’t even cost much - fosstodon has I believe 50K+ people on it and monthly costs are currently $2110 (source: https://hub.fosstodon.org/about/ ). Even if only 10K of those people pay, it’s 20c per person. That doesn’t pay the admins or moderators, but charge $2/month and their wages are covered. These are not unreasonable fees to ask people to pay.
@Brendanjones @kevinrns I'm not sure if this funding model is sustainable over the long term.
At what point do the admins decide that they need money to pay their rent/mortgage while dealing with all of the social issues on social media? Not to mention the possibility of large legal costs and costs associated with law enforcement compliance.
Besides, how does this money get spent strategically to position Mastodon as the Twitter alternative? I'm thinking advertising, outreach, marketing, deal making with other companies.
@kevinrns @seeteegee
> At what point do the admins decide that they need money to pay their rent/mortgage
That’s the entire point of paying them?
> Not to mention the possibility of large legal costs and costs associated with law enforcement compliance.
I don’t know enough about this to meaningfully discuss it. Someone else welcome to jump in.
@kevinrns @seeteegee
> how does this money get spent strategically to position Mastodon as the Twitter alternative? I'm thinking advertising, outreach, marketing, deal making with other companies.
I refute the framing of this question. Why does Mastodon need to be or do any of this? It’s growing magnificently already using zero of what you speak. And what deals does it need to make with other companies?
RNRatched@Brendanjones @kevinrns @seeteegee My favorite things about Mastodon… No algorithms… no advertisements! I get a little nervous when they start talking about making deals with big companies. What exactly does that mean?
@SEGarrettRN @Brendanjones @kevinrns I value these things also, but there are costs. How do we get adequate funding so that we can properly staff this platform moving forward to a billion users with processes to deal with the social ills that will come with it? Otherwise we end up with a platform that unjustly discriminates, and bans people with no appeals process (no resources for that) as one woman has written about. Or, people get creative about monetization, such as ads. Or, the platform remains obscure.