Kevin RussellMastodon isnt just a life-raft, mastodon is how we win.
The next big thing is not corporate apps. Not corporate anything.
We arent running away from elon, we're replacing him.
seeteegee@kevinrns great, so what’s the funding model and plan to get billions of people on here? Also, how to deal with all the sociological and legal issues at that scale? Who’s going to work out the deal with Twitter that allows us to use one app that works with both systems during the transition period?
Brendan Jones@seeteegee @kevinrns the funding model is simple, you pay to be on your instance. It doesn’t even cost much - fosstodon has I believe 50K+ people on it and monthly costs are currently $2110 (source: https://hub.fosstodon.org/about/ ). Even if only 10K of those people pay, it’s 20c per person. That doesn’t pay the admins or moderators, but charge $2/month and their wages are covered. These are not unreasonable fees to ask people to pay.
@Brendanjones @kevinrns I'm not sure if this funding model is sustainable over the long term.
At what point do the admins decide that they need money to pay their rent/mortgage while dealing with all of the social issues on social media? Not to mention the possibility of large legal costs and costs associated with law enforcement compliance.
Besides, how does this money get spent strategically to position Mastodon as the Twitter alternative? I'm thinking advertising, outreach, marketing, deal making with other companies.
@kevinrns @seeteegee
> At what point do the admins decide that they need money to pay their rent/mortgage
That’s the entire point of paying them?
> Not to mention the possibility of large legal costs and costs associated with law enforcement compliance.
I don’t know enough about this to meaningfully discuss it. Someone else welcome to jump in.
@kevinrns @seeteegee
> how does this money get spent strategically to position Mastodon as the Twitter alternative? I'm thinking advertising, outreach, marketing, deal making with other companies.
I refute the framing of this question. Why does Mastodon need to be or do any of this? It’s growing magnificently already using zero of what you speak. And what deals does it need to make with other companies?
RNRatched@Brendanjones @kevinrns @seeteegee My favorite things about Mastodon… No algorithms… no advertisements! I get a little nervous when they start talking about making deals with big companies. What exactly does that mean?
@SEGarrettRN @Brendanjones @seeteegee
Mastodon isnt a company. Mastodon doesnt own instances of Mastodon. Mastodon at bottom is software written by volunteers and fans. Anyone can install it, open a server, begin to associate with others running Mastodon. Thats Mastodon.
@kevinrns @SEGarrettRN @seeteegee mastodon definitely is a company (Mastodon GmbH) and definitely owns instances of Mastodon (mastodon.social), and the code is not entirely written by volunteers. But the rest you wrote is correct.
@Brendanjones @SEGarrettRN @seeteegee
OK, thank you. Your help is appreciated. You have made your point. I will make the several clarifications.Then Ill explain Red Hat.
@kevinrns @SEGarrettRN @Brendanjones so, it’s just another fidonet then with better mobile apps? They love how anyone can install that software too, along with their benevolent dictator for life. The smugness level is high there too. That’s fidonet. Take it of leave it.