troy_s Jan 19, 2023

I’ve lost follower acquaintances for saying this, so I’m saying it again: If you think that Statistical Nonsense Machines (wrong terms “AI” or “ML”) make art, you don’t have a clue what art is.

No, really. Go study it.

Art is sociological artifact. Remove the cognition to create interpreted intent in relation to the sign and signified, and the concept of “art” is removed.

Literally *not* art.

Show threadRoy WigginsJan 19, 2023
@troy_s where's the line between algorithmic art and these new things? If the designers of the tool had artistic intentions and an aesthetic they intended to bake into the model, does that make it art? Midjourney seems to have a "house style" that seems very intentional to me.
Show threadRoy Wiggins
@troy_s Like, if anything produced by twiddling parameters of a generative tool categorically isn't art then that seems to prove too much
Jan 19, 2023 at 6:42pmWeb
Show threadRoy WigginsJan 19, 2023
@troy_s eg if I generate a thousand images of perlin noise at random and pick the 10 that look like faces to me and print them out, is that more or less artistic than generating a thousand Midjourney images and picking my favorite ten?