Andi Popp 🇺🇦🎗️Jan 17, 2023
Because it has to be repeated again and again: We need to drastically reduce the number of cars to solve our problems.
Show threadFeth 🎉Jan 17, 2023
@AndiPopp We don't need high speed trains at all.
We need fast trains for populated locations; high speed trains cause desertification and high pricing.
Show threadFlüpkeJan 17, 2023

@ffeth @AndiPopp wrong. High speed rail competes with planes. Which is even worse than cars.

We need more trains in general. Both high speed ones and slower, regional ones.

Show threadFeth 🎉Jan 18, 2023

@fluepke Where I live (France), high speed railways are huge impassable noisy gaps in the landscape.

We have the inconvenience, we don't have the stations.

For instance, if I take the high speed train to Lyon, it means going to Paris by fast train, changing train station, taking the high speed train and... seing my town again at 250km/h 2 hours and half after I left it.

@AndiPopp

Show threadFlüpke

@ffeth @AndiPopp France and its focus on Paris … as if Paris was the center of the world …

In Germany we are slowly but steadily growing our HSR network, that interconnects major cities. It's more of a mesh than a star topology. Between any two larger cities there is a direct HSR connection, which is awesome.

Jan 18, 2023 at 11:01amWeb
Show threadFlüpkeJan 18, 2023
@ffeth @AndiPopp here's an inofficial (but gorgeous) map of our network: https://www.reddit.com/r/de/comments/etele7/ich_habe_als_privates_projekt_ein_liniennetzplan/
Ich habe als privates Projekt ein Liniennetzplan des Deutschen Fernverkehrs erstellt. Vielleicht gefällt das hier jemandem. Ich mag Züge. (OC) [5847 × 8268]

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Show threadFeth 🎉Jan 18, 2023

@fluepke Normal passenger trains already cover a distance of 1000km a day, 1000 other km in the night; it's huge and we're still not satisfied…

They ripped moutains apart for the sake of taking 10 minutes out Paris-Strasbourg, making people in between lose time and princing the ticket higher.

I have a feeling that keeping places at a time+distance has virtues on its own.

@AndiPopp