@stopgopfox
Wait just a darn minute there!!! Did Guiliani just tell an interviewer that the IRS handed over the tax returns of people like Wilbur Ross to Trump.... and that Trump was having Guiliani VET these rich people, by going over their tax returns??? And that Trump told him to 'just take them home and go over them'??? And....vet them for WHAT??? Donations???
I have a feeling we're in for another big news blowup...or we should be!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/giuliani-says-trump-told-him-to-take-classified-files-home/ar-AA16psSC?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b423742b9df34f2da9dfdf6beed5729e

Giuliani says Trump told him to take classified files home

Giuliani says Trump told him to take classified files home - Ex-president’s former lawyer says he never did take documents home

MSN
@demoncat @stopgopfox
At what point does all this actually blow up? Now they'll just find something else about Biden that they can try to equate... SCOTUS & so many powerful politicians & lawyers are running interference for TFG.
@lolonurse @stopgopfox
I hear ya. The talking heads on 'our' side need to make clear that even tho the 2 cases have similarities.... that doesn't change the facts of the Law, for either man. Trump's case will march on. This is a golden opportunity to change the news cycle back to PorkyFive and his inept band of criminals!
@demoncat @stopgopfox
But "we" (Dems) can't seem to learn from others' mistakes. Biden should be grabbing this bull by the horns, & being up front & transparent. Why does everyone think denial & avoidance is a sensible path?
@lolonurse @stopgopfox
I'm really hoping that Jeffries starts to bring a little 'kick ass' to the party, now that he's got the leader role. I've had countless talks with @stopgopfox about how the Dems really, really need to start playing 'ugly' if we're ever going to get out in front of the Reps BS and smear campaigns. The Dems need to start 'taking some joy' in trashing on the Reps, just like they do to us. I think it would open some eyes....and maybe ....minds!
@demoncat @lolonurse @stopgopfox Best thing the dems can do now is continue their solidarity, message discipline and delivering with a single voice while the repubs appear to still be in disarray
@mrpinkly @demoncat @stopgopfox
In that vein, we're in a bit of a mess, with Sinema turning into a nut, & Manchin a DINO. Plus the GQP not taking committees seriously, & appointing some of the most dangerous, impulsive & treasonous MAGAs to incredibly meaningful seats.
@mrpinkly @demoncat @lolonurse @stopgopfox We need to inspire fire in the belly of the political base.Passion and commitment to right the wrongs we have endured .
@kyrie7305 @mrpinkly @lolonurse
@stopgopfox
I agree! That clip is phenomenal on so many levels, it's scary. I wish more people in the US could see it, and know it to be true. 10 yrs AND now. We can't claim to love our country, while sitting around and watching it burn from within.
@demoncat @lolonurse @stopgopfox and don’t forget the facts are on the Dems side. Time to lean in Jeffries!!
@DjDedan @lolonurse @stopgopfox Exactly! And as part of the 'resistance', we need to spread this concept far and wide! We cand fight dirty AND still hold the high ground, it's not that hard!
@demoncat @lolonurse @stopgopfox I understand the moral high ground approach, but the reality is, sometimes it’s necessary and appropriate to put your fists to work.
@misterspinalzo @lolonurse @stopgopfox
Well, maybe not in the literal sense, LoL More like our mental muscle. The Dems can run circles around the Reps in battle of the wits, and as the facts are on our side, there's no reason to keep pretending it's distasteful to 'go for the throat', so to speak. It's time to show what real 'patriots' do with the high ground, dammit. Enough already!
#ResistList
@misterspinalzo @demoncat @stopgopfox
Presuming you mean fists figuratively, I agree.
@JBKB703
We need to start letting our Reps and Senators know that we're totally cool with them sniping back at those loony tunes Republicans and their shameless, ignorant hate spewing. It's not like we don't have plenty of ammunition to use against them, all based in fact. Our side just needs to 'polish the delivery' and then get ahead of the Rights nonsense for a change.
@demoncat You can’t bring a knife to a gun duel & expect to prevail. It doesn’t have to be nasty; it can certainly be done well.
@JBKB703 Very true. It's completely possible to keep the high ground, moral and otherwise, while eviscerating your opponent. I think one big, missing component from the Left has been their reluctance to show any 'happiness/pleasure' in taking down their opponents. That's something that has worked well for the Right. We need to learn to be more openly...... smug(?) in our being right.
@demoncat @JBKB703
Maybe we need to create a poster for them, examples of where they incorrectly took the high road, & it bit them (& all of us) in the ass. One of my not-favorites...when TFG & Hillary were debating, & he stalked & hovered, trying to intimidate her (or get people to see him as powerful). She should have spun around & said "Back the fv(k up, creep", or something to that effect. She would have won by a more clear margin, & he would have lost.
@lolonurse @JBKB703 That's a great point! And, it would have been hysterical to see Hillary snap that sleaze down, in front of the world. He wouldn't have known what to do! I can picture him reverting to 'form', and losing it on her, screaming at her, throwing things.... it would have been epic! LMAO!
But, the idea of a chart, now THAT is good..... like, with examples, and maybe some cross reference stuff.... I know our side has the brains to pull it off.....
@lolonurse
Yes. I thought it then and it got yet more obvious by the day
@demoncat @JBKB703
You're on fire. I like how friendly & decent (& creative) mastodon people are, (even migrants from theoldbird), but I also love smart activist passion. It staves off senility. 😏
@lolonurse @JBKB703
Why, thank you! From all of us!
Btw... I love the word 'decent'. Something we've not done 'here', is set up with our 'main' network name, which is Decency United. (facebook, youtube, twitter etc.etc..) By 'we' I mean myself, (Liz Nash) and @stopgopfox (Josh) We've worked hard to keep decency at the core of our messaging. And, as we're just nobody's, too, our Democracy is really, really important to us. We give a damn. About ALL of us ,
@lolonurse @[email protected] @JBKB703 I very rarely miss interacting with the Cookers and RWNJs. Mainly when my long-term self esteem issues flare up and I need to know I'm not the worst person in the world.
@demoncat
We have an easy target with whomever he is from Long Island or wherever. Pummel every repub with "birds of a feather" Potshots.
@dbc3 Hahahaha! Did I forget to mention that Anthony... I mean.. 𝙂𝙚𝙤𝙧𝙜𝙚.... had our love child the other day?? His and mine! He even offered to let Dr. Spock watch from the gallery as he delivered it himself! And then.... he taught an origami class, right afterwards, like a real trooper! All while man-nursing the little gremlin.... I mean our ...love child! What a MAN! 
@stopgopfox The biggest thing they need to do is actually start acting like they care about those whose votes they court. They need to start paasing laws that get enforced to boost the vulnerable and marginalized, and protect those that the repunicants seek to harm. Oh yeah, and tax the fuck outa the rich.
@demoncat @[email protected] This definitely needs further investigation.
@kaydenpat @stopgopfox I sure hope so! It's making me crazy that it isn't already all over the networks, dammit. I guess an interview with the Independent didn't rate high enough for CNN or MSNBC to pick it up???? Arrrrgghhh!!
I just want the asshole indicted already! And ALL of his enablers!
@demoncat @stopgopfox As believable as that all could be, my read from the article was that these were tax returns provided by possible appointments (all of them very rich, natch) to look for anything that might be of concern. Standard vetting technique. The one example given, as noted, became Commerce Secty.
@three_star_dave @stopgopfox
I dunno.... Resumes, letters, references.... yeah.... But I don't see Wilbur Ross, or any number of other people, willingly handing over their tax returns to Trump's people. For any reason. I think mountains would have to be moved before Wilbur showed his taxes to anyone. Especially given his (at the time) recent history with Deutchebank and Cyprus and all..... just sayin... It just doesn't feel like a 'normal vetting'.
Financial Vetting Goes Slowly for Trump’s Wealthy Cabinet Picks

The slack pace may imperil a quick start for the new administration.

@demoncat @stopgopfox *sound of needle scratching across record*

@MPgh @stopgopfox
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

<< makes that weird creepy bone cracky sound that Japanese horror chicks make when they crawl upside down, down stairs >>

En garde! Ha!

*note - why is Mr. West making needle scratching noises? I'm so confused!

@demoncat @stopgopfox Oh, shit! Now that’s really scary! My comment / sound effect was a reaction to Giuliani admitting he took home secret documents to fish for Republican $$$ donors at Trump’s direction. We knew Giuliani isn’t bright, but this is stop-the-presses-level gratuitous self-incrimination. Impressive!
@MPgh @stopgopfox
Just about as scary as watching Rudy's black hair dye dripping down his face as he self incriminates! Eeeeeeek!! LoL
And yeah, I totally agree. The best he can hope for is a 'diminished mental capacity' plea at this point, because he clearly is a few Sandinistas shy of a coup , if you get my drift, LoL
@demoncat @stopgopfox ColludyRudy G is a treasonous seditionist who should be arrested, tried, and if convicted then imprisoned.