Hey I don't have the energy to write a long thread on why this current Bitcoin "rally," is not a real rally, so I'm going to lazily do this in one post:

* BTC is still a failed currency. No one buys anything with it. It's still slow and bad.
* The trading patterns are still weird. More whale and exchange nonsense.
* Anyone telling you to buy BTC now, probably lost a ton of money on NFTs, FTX, Luna/Terra, Axie, DAOs, or all of the above. Their judgement is bad.

#BlackMastodon #BlackTechMastodon

@mekkaokereke Just because every single other time it was a pump and dump, surely that doesn't mean this time it's a pump and dump.

Surely this time it's different...

@mekkaokereke

I have yet to hear a legitimate use case for #crypto in general that’s worth all the downsides, at least in the U.S.

One day #Bitcoin might be a legitimate currency, but today is not that day

@zamallama Bitcoin will never be a legitimate currency. Ever. The sooner we all accept this, the less harm will be done.

@mekkaokereke

I wouldn’t personally say never, there’s been a lot of unbelievable turnarounds in the world of tech

However, a slim chance that it might one day be legit isn’t a reason to invest into it today

@zamallama

I'm not arguing with you on this.

Bitcoin can't even solve the "Amazon socks" problem. People's feet get cold in winter. People buy socks. One website (Amazon), owned by one company (Amazon), sells socks. Bitcoin struggles to handle the global transaction volume of socks on Amazon. Be serious. 🤡

Don't talk to me about lightning or L2. That's just admitting "Bitcoin is only fast if you don't use it."

One transaction uses enough electricity to power a Texas home for 1.5 months.🤡🤡

@zamallama There's enough written on this already that we don't have to have this debate again.

But hey, if you think all of us folks that have built planet scale transaction systems for decades are wrong, and that people like Elon and SBF are right, then buy Bitcoin! Hey, buy it on margin! I wish you luck!

@mekkaokereke

It actually sounds like you are trying to argue with me as if I am a Bitcoin supporter

All I said was that I personally wouldn’t say it will >never< be a legitimate currency, because crazier things have happened

If you want to have the debate with someone I am not that person, I have nothing invested in Bitcoin and likely never will

@zamallama No, I am not saying you're a Bitcoin supporter.

I'm saying specifically what I said: That Bitcoin would never be a legitimate currency. Ever. Its design prevents it from ever being so.

You said, "I wouldn't say never," and I said, "I said what I said, and I'm not debating this."

@mekkaokereke

Ah thank you for clarifying

In that case, I also said what I said, and I’m not debating this either

@mekkaokereke The hypings will continue until the greatest fool is found.
@mekkaokereke Have a good friend who kept trying to get me to invest. I kept telling her that I have no idea how it works. It's sad that people who can't afford to do so are losing money on this scam.

@mekkaokereke

Here's the thing, folks.

is 99% of cryptocurrency uninformed and/or scammy bullshit? Yes.

But the tech *provably* works, and I've learned to ALWAYS bet on tech in the long run.

And alternative currencies are going to look better and better given this economy.

Get educated and consider trying it out. It ain't going away.

@jrm4 @mekkaokereke The tech really does not work. There's no problem it solves. It's not a functional digital currency. Digital currency that does work is a trivial, long-ago-solved technical problem but the hard part is adoption and the solution is incompatible with their libertarian asshattery.

@dalias @mekkaokereke

This is such a weird take because it's provably false today.

You may not *like* what it definitely already accomplishes, but you can't just say it's not functional; it's like saying "guns don't fire bullets"

@jrm4 @mekkaokereke As in @mekkaokereke's reply (and others) it doesn't work meeting the properties of a currency. It vaguely works as a roundabout tradable asset for illegal transactions etc. but that doesn't make it a currency. And of course it works for gambling but that doesn't make it a currency either.

@dalias @mekkaokereke

I agree with everything you've said here, with the possible note that -- that "etc." in your post is working overtime. :)

Yup, cryptoCURRENCY isn't a great name for what we have here. But it's *already* something signficant.

@jrm4 @mekkaokereke “In other words, it promises nothing as a running yield and never matures with a required terminal payment. It follows that it cannot suffer a run. The only way a holder of bitcoin can cash out is by a sale to someone else.”

@Chimaera @mekkaokereke

Why do people post this quote as if it means anything? THIS LITERALLY DESCRIBES EVERY FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT

@jrm4 @mekkaokereke semantics aside, currencies don’t actually work that way but ok

@Chimaera @mekkaokereke

Which is why I didn't say the word "currency" and mostly agree that it doesn't make a good "currency."

There are other things related to money that you can exchange for money that aren't currencies.

@mekkaokereke The power consumption is a direct function between the prices of BitCoin and Energy. If the price goes up, so will the energy consumption, because more miners are jumping on it. And that's not a side effect, this is built in.
Each time you buy BitCoin, you're burning our planet. 🔥 https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2022/feb/18/bitcoin-miners-revive-fossil-fuel-plant-co2-emissions-soared
Bitcoin miners revived a dying coal plant – then CO2 emissions soared

Critics say the enormous electricity consumption needed to sustain cryptocurrency is fueling the climate crisis and now threatens a partial resurrection of coal in the US

The Guardian
@mekkaokereke 2022 the year of people asking their tech friends what they know about NFTs....
@mekkaokereke treating BTC as a fiat currency rather than a decentralized blockchain was its downfall. Cryptocurrency has failed to live up to the countless white papers that view it as an answer to banking the bankless -- but as a proof of stake technology, there’s so much potential out there to solve a lot of our issues, such as election certification. @whetstone I saw your retoot 🤣