Lucy MJan 14, 2023
Bike lanes are DRIVER infrastructure. Without cars there's no need for bike lanes - the whole reason for bike lanes is to protect people from drivers. The cost of bike lanes is part of the cost of driving.
Show threadReverend BlairJan 15, 2023
@Lucyincanada Not only that, but as a truck driver anything that gets bikes off the road is beneficial.
Putting the largest vehicles on the road in the same lane as the smallest vehicles was something that always baffled me.
Show threadRod SpurrierJan 15, 2023
@Reverend_Blair @Lucyincanada
Unfortunately there largest vehicles have, over the last 40 to 50 years, got considerably larger. As have motor cars. The shift of freight from rail to road exacerbated the problems of road system. Lack of investment in the right infrastructure.
Show threadReverend Blair

@rrspur @Lucyincanada Well, yes and no.
I've been in a 1947 3 ton with a 16 foot bed from back in the times you are talking about. It still took 3 lanes to get around a corner. It also wandered a fair bit, so you needed the whole lane (no power steering) and was just as wide (102 inch deck) as a modern truck. The mirrors and overall visibility sucked. You had to be a witch to shift gears. It was harder to drive than a modern semi. I liked it a lot.

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Show threadReverend BlairJan 15, 2023

@rrspur @Lucyincanada
There was a lot less traffic back then though, and more people understood how large vehicles moved.

Also, the guy driving it hadn't just pulled into a strange town, not knowing where he was going or how the city worked.

I agree we need to get back to rail more, but I don't see that addressing the trucks on the city roads issues very much because there's still that final mile problem.

Show threadRod SpurrierJan 15, 2023
@Reverend_Blair @Lucyincanada
In 1957 the speed limit for goods vehicles was increased from 20 mph to 30 mph. In the same year the film Hell Drivers was released. Traffic speed was much more forgiving in those days. In the late 50's I would, at the age of 12, cycle down the A49 into Shrewsbury with little worry about thundering lorries.
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