The Linux ExperimentTHIS is why I'm LEAVING ANDROID
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Alejandro Morales LepeGreat video as usual!
PolkaDotPenguin@thelinuxexperiment Great Video! And it’s kind of funny that I am about to do the exact opposite for similar reasons. I own an iPhone XR and it’s still fine because I don’t need much (started looking around because my daughter soon will want a phone). But iOS is very limited, the prizes nowadays are insane and there is not much choice. I bought a refurbished Galaxy S10+ and flashed /e/ on it. Price was good, works great… but I cannot use mobile payment. Now way I will use Google pay…
James Richardson@thelinuxexperiment So a Xiaomi or other Chinese phone running LineageOS isn't an option? It is hard to beat their hardware at their price points.
I don't understand your choice for Iphone. Made in China. Spy on users (from Apple, and probably China). Limited software jailed ecosystem. So you don't like those things and go for one that has them all. I agree on many of your requirements, I even might have more. And I understand too that it's difficult to have products for everyone and we are getting pickier while design and engineering of devices try to be more "mainstream" to be able to sell to more people. I might have even more requirements on a "perfect" device, like social and environmental responsibility; good protection (people either have a device with broken screen or a protective case, why they can't make devices harder to break?); big screen but easy to type (so smaller screen :D ). Yes, it's hard, hard to please all, and probably will get worst until someone innovate.
Aemstuz@thelinuxexperiment It looks that you need to send your data either to Apple, Google or Google & Chinese government…
If you accept giving out your data to Apple anyway (and Google too because you use YouTube), then why not to choose some Chinese phone?
PenguinTech 
@aemstuz @thelinuxexperiment exactly, If we're talking about giving as little data as possible, a Google only option is the most viable one, but he did say he's not into the hardware and he hates the OS inside, and he also said he's being difficult in his demands ( screen size, refresh rate, design....etc ), I mean personally, Pixel is hands down the best phone I used, and you can make it more private with a custom rom of your choosing
uzayran@thelinuxexperiment I agree with all of your points, but ended up with a different compromise. I hate iOS on iPads enough that I don't think I'd be able to stand it on my phone. I'm using CalyxOS on a Fairphone 4 and I am happy enough with it for now. 60Hz screens don't bother me luckily, and the options for privacy and access to FOSS apps I have on CalyxOS are more important to me than whatever Apple could offer on the hardware side of things.
Carlos Solís4:00 - Me running with a Xiaomi smartwatch that my sister gave me for my birthday be like “Now all of China knows you’re here!” https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/now-all-of-china-knows-youre-here
Joel Sutton@thelinuxexperiment Great vid. Thanks 👍
Avi (אבי) 
🪬@thelinuxexperiment sounds like a skill issue to me
Phlox@thelinuxexperiment I am not a Samsung expert, but can‘t you use an eSim with Samsung phones?
I have to say that I'm a little disappointed. With a lot of cons about Android your totaly right, but thats still so much more Linux than iOS. Your call "The Linux Experiment", so Android is still the way better choice. But I'm sure you are going to miss it soon, there is no F-Droid store and with that a lot of open source apps. I am sure you love it to have controll over your Devices and with iPhone, Apple is the one with controll, not you, so I hope you will switch back in a view months.
Anders Rytter Hansen@thelinuxexperiment Damn. Didn't know that about China.. sitting here with my Chinese phone 😅
Cypher JackGrapheneOS works well for me and never had hardware issues with Pixels, hope they won't come any time soon !
abcxyz@thelinuxexperiment I hope you realise phones these days are also being made in Vietnam, India and Brazil. Its not just china. Also, what's wrong with fairphone on /e/OS? Or Nothing, Nokia, Sony? Nothing brand should check all your boxes!
Lastly, I am sure if you skin and case your Pixel the right way, you can pretty much remove all that design you hate. LaterCase with dbrand skin won't be that bulky!
iOS Linux compatability is bare bones, so do make videos on how you fixed that!
@thelinuxexperiment Apple is also china influenced. A lot. So although reasons seem... well, reasonable. Your ultimate choice to Apple is what baffles me. There must be something about the camera or the software that you like too much.
Thual@thelinuxexperiment Great video, with interesting and developed arguments. I disagree with your choice, but I understand why you made it. In fact for me it has been a question for long: apple and iOS, or alternative ROM? I chose /e/ OS, but it could have been iOS in other circumstances.
Peter Schachte@thelinuxexperiment I agree with all your complaints about Android, but I personally wouldn't consider it worth-while to switch to Ios. The lack of privacy on Ios is terrible. At least on Android I can use something like DuckDuckGo app tracker blocking or just use a FOSS rom.
MarkGApple? Yikes. I myself bought a used Fairphone 2 and installed LineageOS on it (sans Google Play Store --> I rely solely on f-droid).
dieTasse has moved@thelinuxexperiment I agree with you a lot, thanks for covering these points, especially the chinese phone problem. You forgot about Asus though, they are kinda compact. Otherwise I had same issues, until finally I have concluded phone is phone, just a tool and things like 90 Hz refresh rate or size of screen are just things that will keep me on it, not away from it. I have now phone with LOS without microG and I am quite happy, not using my phone much really. Next will be fairphone for me...
Silver Huskey@thelinuxexperiment Fair points on why you're leaving Android for Apple. It's also a thoughtful take on the strengths and weaknesses of both ecosystems.
I once used Samsung, but their tech not tending to work after about a year was a problem for me as well. Even the tablets sucked. While I usually go with Google phones over Samsung (I've had my Google Pixel 3A XL since 2019), I went Apple for my tablet in 2020. I have no regrets with it. So yeah, I get the appeal even if Apple can be bland.
OookI don't buy your logic on leaving google to go to apple while you say you actually like /e/ OS. Why didn't you buy a Murena samsung s9/s9+ or Fairphone 3+/4 ?
Supersonic Explorer Have you looked into abovephone dot com ?
I sincerly hope that linux phone will gain attraction.
And we need nokia's maemo back
And we need nokia's maemo back
Cold HotmanAnd here I was thinking maybe a Linux phone that synced to a self-hosted Nextcloud server or on that level since the video guy didn't want a phone sold by a Chinese company.
Spoiler alert, he uses an iPhone after stating he didn't want a phone sold by a Chinese company.
Spoiler alert, he uses an iPhone after stating he didn't want a phone sold by a Chinese company.