What are your favourite civilisation-style tabletop games? I have THROUGH THE AGES & I do like it, though it's a bit mean & I'd love something with an actual map. I played MOSAIC at the weekend & enjoyed it well enough, though maybe I'd love something with more in-depth tech progression. I found TAPESTRY a bit too abstracted for my liking.

Any thoughts? SF/space/Fantasy equivalents totally acceptable.

@TimClare I quite like Civilization from FFG, designed by Kevin Wilson and came out around 2010. It's quite crunchy without feeling like a slog. The follow-up A New Dawn is neat as well, but far more streamlined and some people dislike the abstraction there too. But I found it a good alternative that plays in a much smaller time frame than its predecessor.