riverThe idea of collective white responsibility for historical actions or white guilt only serves to center the white person and give them the task of the great arbiter of justice. We don’t need that shiiii. We need real systemic change.
Yams@revoltthetruth The idea of collective white responsibility for historical actions is dumb and mostly used and forwarded along by racist people. If someone were to take an argument like this seriously then every race would have collective responsibility for the people they enslaved due to every race having it in their history.
@yams yeah cuz like if we’re going to essentialize by race it plays in to every racist trope about white people creating this thing or that thing. There’s a big difference between writing a wrong and examining our personal prejudice vs taking responsibility for our ancestors.
BoopyTheFox@revoltthetruth My idea is that everyone who is living is intrinsically "guilty", because they take some resources to maintain life.
There is no person or plant or animal who gives out more than they take, because of thermodynamics.
And if we're talking about some thing they did providing subjectively more value than they took by existing, breathing, eating, etc - well sure, but in the end, did it really?
Every ideology and what stands behind, is just some successful mental gymnastics.
@BoopyTheFox I feel this really only serves to put responsibility and guilt on the individual when the systems in place that hurt minorities are growing outside the domain of any one humans control.
You’re right that individually we don’t add too much value. That’s because of the distribution of labor. That’s why we have to think of collective action above all else.
@revoltthetruth Imagine being eusocial
@BoopyTheFox thanks for teaching me a new word :)