Unnamed TNG skant beefcakeHello it is me
I am the extreme alt left
I am here to bully you online into accepting ridiculous ideas like:
* Literally everyone deserves a good life
* Universal, unconditional healthcare
* No one should have too much power over anyone else
robertologyHello it is I from the extreme Right.
I am here simply to comment before I go back to doing my own stuff. My comments include ridiculous ideas such as:
* Literally everyone deserves the opportunity to create a good life
* Families, neighbors, churches, etc. ought to care for each other
* No government entity should have power over the citizens
Kenny Kravitz@robertology @researchfairy How does that last one work? What if, say, my neighbour's hobby poisons the air and water in our neighbourhood? Are the police not intrinsically part of the state?
@kennykravitz @researchfairy That was an over simplified statement. I wasn't talking anarchy. :)
My goal there was to point out the similarities of the apparent left/right divide. Those groups are more similar than not. We're being played against each other.
The OP talked about one person having power over another. Someone on the right would say "I agree. Also, let's extend that to government. Especially them because once you give them power, it's very hard to get it back". Power to the people
Sally Strange@robertology
-"the opportunity to create a good life" = the ability to own more than you need and deny others what they need
-"churches and family should take care of people" and if you're an orphan who happens to be an atheist then die in the streets
-"no government entity should have power over citizens" = no environmental regulations, but definitely persecute poor oppressed people for seeking asylum
-"the opportunity to create a good life" = the ability to own more than you need and deny others what they need
-"churches and family should take care of people" and if you're an orphan who happens to be an atheist then die in the streets
-"no government entity should have power over citizens" = no environmental regulations, but definitely persecute poor oppressed people for seeking asylum
@SallyStrange Interesting conclusions. I didn't quite follow how you got to #3 especially.
A good exercise would be doing the same to the original post: look for the potential negatives with enacting such things. If you're up for it, I'd love to see your thoughts there.
Luna Ruby Artemis 💛🤍💜🖤@robertology @researchfairy
Honestly even your first point invites victim-blamey wiggle room. "People who squandered their opportunity (as we perceive it) deserve to be poor" vs "no one deserves/needs to be poor".
Honestly even your first point invites victim-blamey wiggle room. "People who squandered their opportunity (as we perceive it) deserve to be poor" vs "no one deserves/needs to be poor".
@arina @researchfairy
The OP said "good life". I said "good life". Where does "poor" come from?
Make whatever life you want, but you aren't going to be given one. There is no Good Life Warehouse where you can pick one up. Even if you're born into all the resources and connections, you still need to make a life. And some of those make a bad life.
I'm sure it helps, but being rich is not required for a good life.
And "good" is subjective. Define yours and make it happen. That's empowerment.
@robertology @researchfairy
Fascinating how you managed to mince so many words to say so little, and 90% of it is just... Pretentious moralizing.
I could probably unpack your onion of bull but I don't have all day, sorry.
Fascinating how you managed to mince so many words to say so little, and 90% of it is just... Pretentious moralizing.
I could probably unpack your onion of bull but I don't have all day, sorry.