one of the reasons qbasic was so successful was because it came preinstalled on your OS and it came with everything. input, text, graphics, sound, even "music" through the PLAY command, even a built in help catalogue detailing how it all worked

the only way to get that same experience today is to use a fantasy console

@eniko yeah, we went from creative & sciences oriented machines (desktops) to locked-in consumption driven devices (mobiles)

@bug I think it was already happening on desktops long before the widespread adoption of mobile computers. Compare, for example the quality of Linux man pages to something like OpenBSD—and conversely, their respective ease of installation. There's a cultural difference between those communities in how they value quality, completeness, and correctness vs. features, compatibility, and performance.

@eniko