Jon WorthMy new Litelok One lock is here
Still made in the UK, but these days shipped from a warehouse in Netherlands to me in Germany
So much Brexit winning!
Now mounted on the Birdy. The only problem is it’s going to get dirty here…
But this lock is 0.5kg lighter than the Abus Bordo I had before, and importantly is much easier to handle than a Bordo.
Also - related. It's not out of the blue I am buying a Litelok. I have had a LiteLok One (Medium length) for some years, right from when Litelok was just starting out. I am a fan of these locks - they're secure, lighter than metal locks, and I find the semi-flexible design quite nice to handle.
Apicultor 🐝@jon I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lockpickinglawyer+litelok
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lockpickinglawyer+litelok
@apicultor I'd also like to point out the age of the picking videos...
@jon Cutters haven't changed, and that band design looks very similar.
It looks like they didn't learn the first time, so there's definitely a non-zero chance they didn't learn the second time -- and the laws of physics don't change over time.
If I were in your shoes, I'd try cutting it myself with the same type of tool; the price for the lesson learned is quite low given what you're trying to keep safe.
Sascha
Michelle Kelly-Irving@jon Yes, I find the Abus Bordo really hard to handle & quite limiting sometimes. This looks like a nice option!
@MkellyIrving Right. I *always* get the Bordo caught on spokes, frame, whatever it is I am chaining the bike too. However many times I try I never master it!
Confused Middle Aged Dad@jon looks much cleaner and less worn than my old red birdy
@confusedMiddleAgedDad This one has done a LOT of kilometres, but I have put in a lot of work to look after it and adapt it. The bike has allowed me to make trips I'd otherwise never make - it's brilliant.
@jon I used to combine cycle and train for work but decided I was working too hard to do that and seemed to regularly have to cycle all the way. Birdy largely redundant for last 15 years. I also found folding handlebar to be a weak point which regularly developed a wobble from hinge. Oh, and seat post cracked.
@jon and winter cycling played havoc with the paint
@confusedMiddleAgedDad Sadly that cracking was a regular occurrence on those older Birdy bikes. Somehow I have avoided that so far! If I were to commute with a folding bike I would get a Brompton, but the ride quality of the Birdy has proven ace for longer stretches.
@jon I really liked the feel of the Birdy and may revamp mine yet. Carbon seat posts are available for reasonable cost. Stem looks expensive however.
@confusedMiddleAgedDad Second hand aluminium posts are also to be found from time to time. Stems are harder, but I *think* these are common to all Birdy versions, so should be possible too.
8lettersuk@jon I'm going to have to go and buy one to replace my Abus 8210 now I have FOMO
@8lettersuk This is what I had: https://mobil.abus.com/usa/on-road/Locks/Folding-Locks/BORDO-GRANIT-XPlus-6500-85-black-SH
It's secure, sure. But the folding bits get caught on spokes, frame etc. every single time you lock your bike...
@jon oh yeah that looks like a design waiting for a purpose. In no way does that look useful as a lock.
@8lettersuk The idea *in theory* is neat - folding metal bars. The problem is the hinge thingies between each bar get caught on things *all the time*, however careful you are about how you hold the lock. Maybe on a bike with bigger wheels it's OK, but on the folding bike it's hell.
@jon oh yeah small wheels - ugh I can imagine that was not a good combination at all 
still you now have a shint new lock so keeping it secure can be easy again
still you now have a shint new lock so keeping it secure can be easy again
John Wood@jon Fighting talk there - very much love my Bordo! Though concede the look of your frame could make one pretty fiddly.
@johninnit I always get the Bordo stuck on things - on spokes, on the frame, on whatever it is I am locking the bike to. I find it hard to use swiftly. Mounting it on the frame was the least of the issues!