@jurjen_heeck @twit_terrorist @Gargron

One can simply link to a post, but the nicely formatted graph data doesn't display. I don't see the difference in linking to URL or quote posting. I think if you post something to a public website, others should be able to interact with that post. Turning off comments, muting, blocking are legit methods to control your personal experience, but pre-editorializing who can link to a public post I think goes too far.
https://elk.zone/mastodon.nl/@jurjen_heeck/109623908803719520

@awarsing @jurjen_heeck @twit_terrorist @Gargron the difference is the immediate visibility of the content combined with, often as seen on Twitter, a call to pile-on or otherwise disparage the original post / author.

We see this happening a LOT on Twitter. We really don’t need to add routes for bullying and abuse here.

@jurjen_heeck @wiredfire @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron this is exactly the reason why not to do it.

Has been pointed out many times as the big positive feature compared to #birdside that this is not possible here.

Quoting and boosting basically stops the discussion and changes it to a talk about the post&author, excluding her/him from any further conversation and giving the trolls a tool for harassment and insulting.

Don't.

@Billie @jurjen_heeck @wiredfire @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron
I miss QTs a lot because often I explicitly *don't* want to bother the original poster with a (potentionally annoying) reply. I want to communicate my thoughts to my followers, who deliberately follow me to receive that kind of content and can undo that at any moment.

Being encouraged to become a reply guy isn't always making things better...

@StreetDogg so you need to share some reaction, and optionally the content you're reacting to, to your followers, while not notifying the author. Then you can (optionally boost and) reply without mentioning this person.
To what extend does that don't fulfill the need ?

@Billie @wiredfire

@Lapineige
@Billie @wiredfire @Gargron

For this specific suggestion:

- Replying without mention takes extra effort to remove the mention.
- I think?! the reply still shows up in the thread, but I don't want to be part of it.
- The boost and my reply are two distinct posts. I'd prefer them to be more inseparable to avoid losing context, if it gets spread around more. Specifically, I don't want the boost to be seen as endorsement and maybe not even spread what I'm reacting to more than needed.

@StreetDogg a few complementary questions to make sure I understand your points :

1) yes, but is this a big deal compared to the potential toxic usage this would allow ?
2) it does. Why would you want it not to be attached to it ?
3) thanks to 2) the context is still attached, if your comment gets boosted for instance people can still see the context, and Mastodon (and other softwares) show that your comment is a reply (so people and incited in opening the thread).
@Billie @wiredfire @Gargron

@Lapineige @Billie @wiredfire @Gargron

1) I'm not convinced QTs would be a net negative, to be honest. Their lack might even encourage toxic reply guy behaviour. The extra effort is just frustrating & discourages the usage of the service. It doesn't make its usage impossible, but since it can still be done, this annoyance doesn't even succeed in stopping the toxic behaviour it targets. It's an attempt to nudge the "bad guys" away from specific ways to communicate by providing a worse service.