Eugen RochkoI don't feel as strongly about quote posts as I did in 2018. Personally, I am not a fan, but there is clearly a lot of demand for it. We're considering it.
Toot Terrorist@Gargron I hope you don't add it, but if you do, at least give us the option to block quoted posts from people, please.
Jurjen Heeck 🍋@twit_terrorist @Gargron That, and the option to block my posts (individually) from being quoted.
Allan Warsing@jurjen_heeck @twit_terrorist @Gargron
One can simply link to a post, but the nicely formatted graph data doesn't display. I don't see the difference in linking to URL or quote posting. I think if you post something to a public website, others should be able to interact with that post. Turning off comments, muting, blocking are legit methods to control your personal experience, but pre-editorializing who can link to a public post I think goes too far.
https://elk.zone/mastodon.nl/@jurjen_heeck/109623908803719520
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@awarsing @jurjen_heeck @twit_terrorist @Gargron the difference is the immediate visibility of the content combined with, often as seen on Twitter, a call to pile-on or otherwise disparage the original post / author.
We see this happening a LOT on Twitter. We really don’t need to add routes for bullying and abuse here.
Billie@jurjen_heeck @wiredfire @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron this is exactly the reason why not to do it.
Has been pointed out many times as the big positive feature compared to #birdside that this is not possible here.
Quoting and boosting basically stops the discussion and changes it to a talk about the post&author, excluding her/him from any further conversation and giving the trolls a tool for harassment and insulting.
Don't.
alapite@Billie @jurjen_heeck @wiredfire @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron What exactly is the problem if you can choose to opt out of the feature entirely (and, even better, need to actively opt-in to begin with)? Why does the feature have to be denied for everyone just because some people dislike it? I really don’t understand this absolutist mindset.
clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪đź‡đź‡°đź’™đź’›@alapite The problem is pretty obvious if person A cannot opt out of person B using it on person A's post.
If that's made possible, then adding the feature will be less problematic.
Allow people to choose whether their posts will generate link previews, perhaps. And then a QT is just a link that generates a link preview.
@Billie @twit_terrorist @wiredfire @jurjen_heeck @awarsing @Gargron
If that's made possible, then adding the feature will be less problematic.
Allow people to choose whether their posts will generate link previews, perhaps. And then a QT is just a link that generates a link preview.
@Billie @twit_terrorist @wiredfire @jurjen_heeck @awarsing @Gargron
@clacke @Gargron @twit_terrorist @wiredfire @alapite @jurjen_heeck @awarsing
The main issue is that you this way detach the original author from the discussion and detach the replies made on the original thread from your post.
In RL, this corresponds to throwing the original author and the repliers out of the conference room and continue discussing.
Both in RL and virtually this is simply bad behavior & toxic.
You can simply reply AND boost. This keeps the discussion intact.
@Billie @clacke @Gargron @twit_terrorist @wiredfire @jurjen_heeck @awarsing You may find it a suboptimal way to interact, but you also need to accept that others have preferences which may differ from yours, and they should be allowed their “flawed” tastes as long as they aren’t forcing them down your throat. “Live and let live”, as the saying goes.
@clacke @Gargron @Billie @twit_terrorist @wiredfire @jurjen_heeck @awarsing On this point I am in complete agreement with you. Nobody should be forced to participate if they don’t want to, and people shouldn’t be bounced into it by default. The choice to allow QTs must be a conscious one, revocable at any time and on a case-by-case basis.
LÄ«ga@alapite @Billie @jurjen_heeck @wiredfire @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron why do you need QT's? What do you use it for? Most people have not been missing it, and preferred not to have it for a few years now. At this point why bother?
@Liga @Billie @jurjen_heeck @wiredfire @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron If you don’t need or want it, good for you, but it’s not your place to tell others what they ought to want or need. Such an attitude makes you no different from the scolds and moralizers eager to tell everyone else what they may read, what they may watch, and what sorts of intimacy they may indulge in behind closed doors.
@alapite @Billie @jurjen_heeck @wiredfire @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron I'm not scolding I'm asking.
@alapite @Billie @jurjen_heeck @wiredfire @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron omg I just went through your TL in which you scolded people over and over for their posts.
@alapite @Liga @jurjen_heeck @wiredfire @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron
As said before in many posts around the #fediverse, you can boost AND reply to a post. That is how it works with #activitypub .
So there is no need for a new function at all.