Eugen RochkoI don't feel as strongly about quote posts as I did in 2018. Personally, I am not a fan, but there is clearly a lot of demand for it. We're considering it.
Toot Terrorist@Gargron I hope you don't add it, but if you do, at least give us the option to block quoted posts from people, please.
Jurjen Heeck 🍋@twit_terrorist @Gargron That, and the option to block my posts (individually) from being quoted.
Allan Warsing@jurjen_heeck @twit_terrorist @Gargron
One can simply link to a post, but the nicely formatted graph data doesn't display. I don't see the difference in linking to URL or quote posting. I think if you post something to a public website, others should be able to interact with that post. Turning off comments, muting, blocking are legit methods to control your personal experience, but pre-editorializing who can link to a public post I think goes too far.
https://elk.zone/mastodon.nl/@jurjen_heeck/109623908803719520
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@awarsing @jurjen_heeck @twit_terrorist @Gargron the difference is the immediate visibility of the content combined with, often as seen on Twitter, a call to pile-on or otherwise disparage the original post / author.
We see this happening a LOT on Twitter. We really don’t need to add routes for bullying and abuse here.
Jonasnuts@jurjen_heeck @wiredfire @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron boosting gives it the same visibility. It’s not the features that are toxic, people are toxic, regardless of the features. I miss qrt a lot. I don’t want to be a mere booster, just an amplifier. I want to ad my vision and my context to it. I’m using link to the toot, and my comment. I’m very sorry that you had such a terrible timeline on the other side, with such horrible qrt. It was very different from my own experience.
@jonasnuts @jurjen_heeck @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron You’re right, people are toxic not features but people use features and we ignore that at our peril.
You don’t have to be just a booster. Start your own conversation based on something you’ve seen! It takes fractionally more effort and is massively more valuable to the community.
@wiredfire it’s what I’m doing. But I want to credit the author of the original ideia, thus the qrt. I’m using link to the original toot, mention of the author (it it makes sense, sometimes it doesn’t), and ad my comment. With the new link preview it’s almost the same. @jurjen_heeck @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron
@jonasnuts @jurjen_heeck @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron you can credit the author without a quote.
You can even link to their original post without a quote.
You can achieve everything you’re wanting to without exposing the problematic side of quotes, which is why they weren’t implemented in the first place.
You can even link to their original post without a quote.
You can achieve everything you’re wanting to without exposing the problematic side of quotes, which is why they weren’t implemented in the first place.
@wiredfire yes, I can. Because the problem is not the qrt. The problem is not the feature. It’s people. I can choose to be an asshole without qrt :-) unfollow, mute, block. People have the tools to manage what content they see, they don’t need a sysadmin to decide what’s best for them. Features are not toxic. People are. The game changer, here, is the absence of an algorithm. The rest it’s peanuts, fait divers. @jurjen_heeck @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron
Līga@jonasnuts @wiredfire @jurjen_heeck @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron if 10 people pile-on, you can block, however that's a lot of work, all because someone wanted to quote?
@Liga or, if the featured is developed right, you can say you don't want to be quoted. You'll have the freedom to use this just like you want, and I will have the freedom to use it like I want :-) (15+ years of twitter usage - never blocked someone to manage my TL and let me assure you, I'm pretty assertive). @wiredfire @jurjen_heeck @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron
@jonasnuts @wiredfire @jurjen_heeck @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron
As I said, good for you. (To be perfectly sarcastic.)
I saw others receive extremely hurtful comments via pile-ons, once seen it can't be unseen. Suggesting they get a thick skin isn't helpful.
As I said, good for you. (To be perfectly sarcastic.)
I saw others receive extremely hurtful comments via pile-ons, once seen it can't be unseen. Suggesting they get a thick skin isn't helpful.
@Liga they want to be protected from the world? They want the world to accommodate their idiosyncrasies? Eheheheheh @wiredfire @jurjen_heeck @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron
@jonasnuts @wiredfire @jurjen_heeck @awarsing @twit_terrorist @Gargron no they want a space that is humane.
Your lack of empathy is noted. And since you can't understand other people's SM experiences, perhaps dropping the subject would be prudent.
Your lack of empathy is noted. And since you can't understand other people's SM experiences, perhaps dropping the subject would be prudent.
Carlos Mogas da Silva@wiredfire using the same line of thought, so can someone with toxicity in mind 😉
So, not having qrt doesn't really accomplish nothing 😁
Lee Fife@jonasnuts that's what I do. And it almost works right.
Except links often cross instances (preview helps with that) .
And most importantly, it doesn't require consent of the original poster.
Which I think is the critical needed feature: allow quote post or not on each post you make
My ease of creating a quote post is less important than the original author being able to allow quotes or request not to be quoted
@colo_lee Agreed. I don’t qrt here so often as I did there precisely because of that. Over there, I know who allows qrt and who doesn’t. Here, I don’t know. It would be great to have the feature and that people would be able to decide if they want to allow their toots to be quoted or not.