PwnallthethingsDec 30, 2022
#Kyiv now past 5 *full hours* of several waves of long-range infrastructure bombardment attacks today
Show threadPwnallthethingsDec 30, 2022

Russia *really* trying to disable infrastructure for New Years'. Massive series of Kalibr waves this morning targeting Kyiv were mostly shot down, so now using Shaheds under night cover.

So, first of all, fuck Russia.

But also, this is a great example of how successful #Ukraine air-defense is rapidly becoming. Absolute vast scale of constant bombardment, and still struggling to get their intended impact due to air defense.

Show threadKimberlyDec 31, 2022
@Pwnallthethings I think you should really say Fuck Putin, not fuck Russia. Most Russians are not for the war & do not back Putin but are “stuck with him” because he will not let them vote him out. I have been to Russia twice & have friends there & believe me, that is how they feel. They are stuck in a war they want no part in because of a maniac who won’t back out of the war because of his ego. #Putin #Russia #UkraineRussia #UkrianeRussiaWar
Show threadAlexander RutholDec 31, 2022

@KiKiPosting
I would love to agree with that, but I don't think it's true.
There's considerable evidence that while the russian people are not strongly for *or* against the war, they are strongly for Putin.

More to the point, though, "russia" is here used as shorthand for the russian regime and russian army, not all russian civilians.

Show threadKimberlyDec 31, 2022
@Je5usaurus_rex The wonderful thing about the world is that we all have the right to our own opinions. My belief is different than yours. You say that Russians like Putin. I disagree totally. If Russians like Putin, they have to like Putin because they haven’t been able to have an alternative. He kills them all off or imprisons them. There is a small percentage of Russians who like him because that is all they have ever known. They are the old Russians. #Putin
Show threadAlexander RutholDec 31, 2022
@KiKiPosting
I think we only disagree on the percentage of russians who support Putin.
Me, I'd put it at 70-80%.
Show threadKFClintonDec 31, 2022

@Je5usaurus_rex @KiKiPosting

"Ten months after Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, some 70 percent of Russians support the war, according to the latest survey by Levada, Russia’s most respected independent polling organization."

Yep, according to WaPo article I read yesterday, Russians are behind Putin's war 70%.

The people have supported him and the military over his time in office due to the propaganda the gov't spews. Brainwashed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/12/29/russia-ukraine-war-opinion-putin-support/

What are Russians really thinking about the war?

The TMC 2022 roundups: Russia and Ukraine

The Washington Post
Show threadAlexander Ruthol

@KFClinton
I slightly disagree with that too, though.
My impression isn't that russians in general support the war, not exactly. My impression is that they support _Putin_.

If Putin tomorrow declared victory in Ukraine and withdrew all russian troops, as a "sign of good will" abandoning Donbas and Crimea to Ukraine, the russian public would just accept it.
Because they trust Putin implicitly.

Dec 31, 2022 at 12:31pmWeb
Show threadKFClintonDec 31, 2022

@Je5usaurus_rex

They support Russia and they support the military. This is another article I read a few days ago. There are constant articles from reliable media on the Russian support for Putin, for the war, for all things mother Russia. The lies are deeply believed, they are like the maga: gullible.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/27/world/europe/ryazan-russia-support-ukraine-war.html

Ryazan, Home of Elite Russian Unit, Still Supports Ukraine War

Ryazan, not far from Moscow, regularly sends young men off to fight. Some are now buried in the local cemetery, but there is no surge of outrage against Russian leaders.