Judd LegumGrowing vaccine hesitancy fuels measles, chickenpox resurgence in U.S.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/12/26/vaccine-hesitancy-measles-chickenpox-polio-flu/
ThreadbaneSocial Darwinism in action. Leaning toward the macabre, perhaps Death itself will cost the Republicans enough support that the US can begin to behave like a civilized country again, and again allow the gov't to "promote the general Welfare".
π@Threadbane Did you just literally "MAGA, but Blue!" right here in public? I'd be embarrassed if I were you.
@6of47
I'm just an old hippy (79) who's never voted for a Republican in my life. I'm a socialist, not a capitalist. I stand for equal pay for equal work, national healthcare, no more agricultural chemicals, no fracking, restore the Colorado River and stop growing lettuce and walnuts in the California desert. My not-so-radical Utopian ideas include ACTUALLY disarming the police and making it all-but-impossible to own a gun.
Anyhow, I'd bet my societal goals are FAR to the Left of yours.
I'm just an old hippy (79) who's never voted for a Republican in my life. I'm a socialist, not a capitalist. I stand for equal pay for equal work, national healthcare, no more agricultural chemicals, no fracking, restore the Colorado River and stop growing lettuce and walnuts in the California desert. My not-so-radical Utopian ideas include ACTUALLY disarming the police and making it all-but-impossible to own a gun.
Anyhow, I'd bet my societal goals are FAR to the Left of yours.
12 Freya it/itsππΉπ π©@Threadbane @6of47 ahahahaha you what? You... are... based on your socialism you're a bit, sort of... racist? and a bit, like... the needless latin in your last message to us says a lot, dude
@12 @6of47 Ah. I see you are not merely a person who hates white people, but also an anti-intellectual.
To tell you the truth, your untidy thought processes seem to be hanging on the same nail now, and I'm bored: hate white people, hate the United States gov't (ie, the Constitution and the US Code of Law), hate education and people who have one (especially if they're white).
If you were white, you'd be a Deplorable.
@Threadbane @6of47 if we w-! You what, dude? We *are* white, or hadn't you noticed. We're just not a fan of theory-first communists who get all shouty about western civilisation. How about we, like, feed a homeless person, beat a fascist, give folks a place to stay, and then, like, do that a lot?
@12 @6of47
Western Civilization is synonymous with science. You seem totally oblivious to the Constitution being a product of the Enlightenment. It's a framework to "provide for the public Welfare" and rid government of the evil influences of religion and the Divine Right of Kings.
"our complaint is against white people! have you seen the dumb shit THEY do in the name of empire..."
You should have said, "WE do..." You hid your whiteness well.
@Threadbane @6of47 hid... our whiteness.... how do we "hide our whiteness". Also... you do realise that science existed in many, many countries that you would not class as "western"? And that science is kind of just inherently a thing that happens, no matter where you are?
@12 @6of47
The concept of mathematical proof and logic did not show up elsewhere. A reasonable approximation of pi did not exist elsewhere, nor did close approximations of the circumference of the Earth or the distance to the moon. Science might have eventually shown up elsewhere (it would be hard to argue not) but it DID show up in Ancient Greece.
You hid your "whiteness" by using "they" to disparage white people/Europeans, instead of "we". But I repeat myself.
@Threadbane @6of47 we'd rather not lump ourself in with the hateful mob, hey? We try, to the best of our abilities, *not* to perpetuate the goals of said hateful mob. Also... you know that we don't *know* that mathematical proof and logic... logic is one of the oldest and most basic forms of thought! It has existed since the first thoughts occured!
@Threadbane @6of47 just because a bunch of crotchety old white cunts wrote it down and that became the version perpetuated by a bunch of other white cunts for the benefit of maintaining their power base...
You are conflating "logic" with thinking, similar to the popular use of the word "theory" to mean a conjecture.
Here is Britannica's History of Logic entry. https://www.britannica.com/topic/history-of-logic
"history of logic, the history of the discipline from its origins among the ancient Greeks to the present time."
You would not find it interesting. I am merely showing that your definition of "logic" and mine are not at all the same - and the Greeks invented my "logic", not anyone else.
History of logic | Ancient, Medieval, Modern, & Contemporary Logic
history of logic, the history of the discipline from its origins among the ancient Greeks to the present time. There was a medieval tradition according to which the Greek philosopher Parmenides (5th century bce) invented logic while living on a rock in Egypt. The story is pure legend, but it does reflect the fact that Parmenides was the first philosopher to use an extended argument for his views rather than merely proposing a vision of reality. But using arguments is not the same as studying them, and Parmenides never systematically formulated or studied principles of argumentation in their own right.
@Threadbane @6of47 maybe they were the first to write it down, but that just shows elitist bias, I.E that only the elites, the rich, the accepted by society had access to the educational tools of that society
A lot of the information I use to make sense of the world has no gender, race, age, ethnic, solar system, galaxy, or time bias, and those the things can be found in books. You give no evidence that you know, or are even aware of, any of these things.
About all I have detected in your vitriol is that white men have never given the world anything of value, rich white men even less. Everything that white men have ever written is merely plagiarism, exploitative or racist lies.
Got it.
@Threadbane @6of47 preeeeeeetty much, yep! What you call "western civilisation" is a hyper-individualist, toxic mess of lies, racism, violence, and the desperate attempt to forever state one entity is better than another. We are all one. Humans just refuse to see it... the only way this species can and will survive is by becoming a hive mind
@Threadbane @6of47 you're not wrong,. there. But you're also pushing some seriously fucked up and historically *highly* racist ideas about what is considered "civilised". Homelessness *is* the fault of capitalism, but fascism is the fault of the false belief in empire and conquest, in power, in individuality, in the freedom *to* rather than the freedom *from*.